[Vamp]

Looks good to me!

[En Sabah Nerd]

Well these are definitely too big to properly blend with Mattel's Multiverse line. Also Batman's clavicle area seems notably lower than it should be, I'll reserve actual judgment until I see them in hand.

[Weapon X]

Why they changed the scale is beyond me. Pretty alienating to multiverse fans.

[Vamp]

They are 7 " just like Neca, looks good to me.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

Why they changed the scale is beyond me. Pretty alienating to multiverse fans.

Probably because this is the scale McFarlane has been running with. With the exception of their early Spawn toys and a few lines here or there (like Halo and Walking Dead were both in that weird 5" scale) McFarlane has pretty much only ever done things in the 7" scale. This is McFarlane's DC line, it isn't Mattel reviving theirs. That said, it is weird that McFarlane's line is being called "Multiverse" too since that sets it up like it's meant to be a continuation on Mattel's.

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by Daredevil

In hand pics are going around now and they are bigger than DC Essentials and arguably NECA. Some will scale in fine, others... not for me. Link to someone on instagram who has comparison pics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B684KBoDUNu/

I saw one of the Action Comics 1000 Superman compared to a Mattel Supes, and it looks like his legs are too thin and the arms too short compared to the chest, but I may still get it to do a head swap onto the NECA Superman!

[Dolemite]

The Batman and Superman pics above both feature VERY soft sculpts; Batman looks sub-Mattel level, honestly, and both Bats and Supes are completely lacking in any detail, clear muscular shape, or definition. At least Supe's face sculpt looks pretty good, but otherwise they both look like bags of mashed potatoes.

And the proportion issues I previously mentioned are on full display. Take McFarlane Batman for example- his arms and legs are the same length as the NECA Batman next to him, but his torso is much longer/wider, making the arms and especially the legs look stumpy and short. NECA Batman's hands reach down to his mid-thigh - like a real person's would - whereas McFarlane Batman's hands barely reach the tops of his thighs.

As for Superman, the problem is even worse! I mean, look at how TINY Supe's legs look! Dude looks like he has polio. And look at that bicep swivel that, if actually used, will totally break up the sculpt and look like shit. The Batman figure has a proper bicep swivel that connects into the shoulder (like Hasbro and NECA does), so why does Supes have one that's below the shoulder and partially INTO the bicep? It looks terrible and also runs into that "lack of articulation continuity" issue I spoke of where there's a complete lack of uniform articulation design from figure to figure. Other companies manage to consistently do it.

Plus, Superman and Batman's arms and legs are all pretty skinny/undeveloped compared to their torsos. Look at NECA/McFarlane Batman for example- despite being taller/bigger overall, the McFarlane Batman looks far less muscular, especially when you go limb-for-limb.

Overall, however, at least they're better than the garbage Mattel put out. I guess. Maybe. Probably not, really.

I can see already that Vamp is a huge McFarlane apologist and thinks these figures are perfect and flawless in every way so I understand there's no arguing with him. And that's fine. I'll just say that if he likes this line I'm very happy for him and I hope McFarlane continues to churn out figures for him for years to come.

And finally- the time between the reveals and people getting these in-hand seems to be the shortest I've ever seen in the toy business. I mean, other companies will reveal product months or even YEARS in advance. What gives? Does anyone in the know want to chime in here with their opinions? Are these figures super rush-jobs, the ultimate surprise, or what?

[Dolemite]

And for the people who were wondering what Anthony would say:

[Joe Moore]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

And finally- the time between the reveals and people getting these in-hand seems to be the shortest I've ever seen in the toy business. I mean, other companies will reveal product months or even YEARS in advance. What gives? Does anyone in the know want to chime in here with their opinions? Are these figures super rush-jobs, the ultimate surprise, or what?

There really are no super rush jobs in products like this. Something like this takes 6 to 9 months from design to production. Stuff like Funko Pops can be rushed in as little as 6 weeks. McFarlane was likely working on these from the moment they signed the deal to take on the line (11 months ago). McFarlane could not reveal anything until January 1st (even though I believe he wanted to at SDCC). Same thing applied with Spin Master.

However, once it hit 2020, the licenses were in their hands, and they were able to release them. So they wasted no time, and decided to have them ready for the beginning of the year.

[Dr Kain]

Are the textures still loading for that Batman and Superman?

[dukefett]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

Why they changed the scale is beyond me. Pretty alienating to multiverse fans.

And anyone who mixes and matches. I mean there's slight differences between Mezco One:12, SH Figuarts, Mafex, etc, but they all typically can work together in the same display.

These just can't, terrible decision by them. I imagine they're going to lose out on a lot of business.

[BagJo]

Maybe in a year he'll relaunch the line in 6 inch scale so he can remake all these characters again.

[Black Arbor]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite

This Batman and Superman pics above both feature VERY soft sculpts; Batman looks sub-Mattel level, honestly, and both Bats and Supes are completely lacking in any clear muscular shape and definition. At least Supe's face sculpt looks pretty good, but otherwise they both look like bags of mashed potatoes.

And the proportion issues I previously mentioned are on full display. Take McFarlane Batamn for example- his arms and legs are the same length as the NECA Batman next to him, but his torso is much longer/wider, making the arms and especially the legs look stumpy and short. NECA Batman's hands reach down to his mid-thigh - like a real person's would - whereas McFarlane Batman's hands barely reach the tops of his thighs.

As for Superman, the problem is even worse! I mean, look at how TINY Supe's legs look! Dude looks like he has polio. And look at that bicep swivel that, if actually used, will totally break up the sculpt and look like shit. The Batman figure has a proper bicep swivel that connects into the shoulder (like Hasbro and NECA does), so why does Supes have one that's below the shoulder and partially INTO the bicep? It looks terrible and also runs into that "lack of articulation continuity" issue I spoke of where there's a complete lack of uniform articulation design from figure to figure. Other companies manage to consistently do it.

Plus, Superman and Batman's arms and legs are all pretty skinny/undeveloped compared to their torsos. Look at NECA/McFarlane Batman for example- despite being taller/bigger overall, the McFarlane Batman looks far less muscular, especially when you go limb-for-limb.

Overall, however, at least they're better than the garbage Mattel put out.

I can see already that Vamp is a huge McFarlane apologist and thinks these figures are perfect and flawless in every way so I understand there's no arguing with him. And that's fine. I'll just say that if he likes this line I'm very happy for him and I hope McFarlane continues to churn out figures for him for years to come.

And finally- the time between the reveals and people getting these in-hand seems to be the shortest I've ever seen in the toy business. I mean, other companies will reveal product months or even YEARS in advance. What gives? Does anyone in the know want to chime in here with their opinions? Are these figures super rush-jobs, the ultimate surprise, or what?

It seriously feels like every single time Todd McFarlane starts a new toyline, he forgets everything he learned with the previous line. 5 inch Walking Dead figures start getting decent articulation? Great! Let's increase the size by 2 inches and makes them immobile statues with useless joints! Fortnite figures have awesome sculpts and useful articulation? Pffft, who would that in a Batman and Superman figure??

[Dolemite]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore

There really are no super rush jobs in products like this. Something like this takes 6 to 9 months from design to production. Stuff like Funko Pops can be rushed in as little as 6 weeks. McFarlane was likely working on these from the moment they signed the deal to take on the line (11 months ago). McFarlane could not reveal anything until January 1st (even though I believe he wanted to at SDCC). Same thing applied with Spin Master.

However, once it hit 2020, the licenses were in their hands, and they were able to release them. So they wasted no time, and decided to have them ready for the beginning of the year.

Ah, that makes complete sense. Thanks for the info.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by BagJo

Maybe in a year he'll relaunch the line in 6 inch scale so he can remake all these characters again.

You mean all of the Batman characters again.

[Zorn88]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

And for the people who were wondering what Anthony would say:

Let me guess. Wah, wah, wah everything sucks wah. *Complain* *Complain* *Complain*

Can't stand that guy.

[Dolemite]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Are the textures still loading for that Batman and Superman?

LOL. Seriously, Bats and Supes look like 7-inch dill pickles. Smoooooth.

Side-by-side with the NECA versions McFarlane's are warm piss.

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

It seriously feels like every single time Todd McFarlane starts a new toyline, he forgets everything he learned with the previous line. 5 inch Walking Dead figures start getting decent articulation? Great! Let's increase the size by 2 inches and makes them immobile statues with useless joints! Fortnite figures have awesome sculpts and useful articulation? Pffft, who would that in a Batman and Superman figure??

I have Peely from his Fortnite line. The figure has the best and most effective articulation that an anthropomorphic banana character could ever hope to have, and the overall design blows the Jazwares version (which itself is perfectly good) out of the water. Then Todd releases the fucking Doom Slayer with tons of articulation that DOES NOT work. Single-jointed elbows that don't reach 90 degrees. Bicep and thigh swivels that literally don't budge due to the sculpt. And so on. It's basically a 7-inch ReAction figure.

Modern figure design has already been pioneered by other companies, Todd. Just copy them, don't ask the janitor how to do it.

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Originally Posted by Zorn88

Let me guess. Wah, wah, wah everything sucks wah. *Complain* *Complain* *Complain*

Can't stand that guy.

I do agree that he can be way too critical at times and is super-nit-picky. But he's dead on in this video.

But to his credit, Anthony is ANYTHING but a company shill, unlike many toy reviewers out there. Regardless of his bitching, you know he's telling you like he legit sees it.

[Augustus10]

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Originally Posted by Zorn88

Let me guess. Wah, wah, wah everything sucks wah. *Complain* *Complain* *Complain*

Can't stand that guy.

Me too. 25% of his criticism is valid. 75% is bullshit. And for Dolemite who said he has no agenda, hell yes he does! He rips apart perfectly decent $2 marvel legends head sculpts so he can sell his own ridiculously over-priced head sculpts at $50! 2.5x the cost of the base figure! He is laughably transparent. Check out his review of the Jean Grey head sculpt in the "Love Triangle" pack.

[Dolemite]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus10

Me too. 25% of his criticism is valid. 75% is bullshit. And for Dolemite who said he has no agenda, hell yes he does! He rips apart perfectly decent $2 marvel legends head sculpts so he can sell his own ridiculously over-priced head sculpts at $50! 2.5x the cost of the base figure! He is laughably transparent. Check out his review of the Jean Grey head sculpt in the "Love Triangle" pack.

Well, yeah, he shills for himself, okay. That's fair.

I'm actually starting to groan out loud each time he brings out the Gambit figure in his recent reviews because I know it's now time to plug his head sculpt sale.

BTW, $50 (painted) is way steep, but no one's making anyone buy it. But that said, I don't think Anthony's sculpt/paintjob is any improvement over the head that the Gambit figure comes with, which as you said is perfectly fine.

[Dolemite]

Also: I (and other posters here) may be really down on these figures, but if you like them and are looking forward to them, please give fuck-all about my opinion. Enjoy them!

That said, I really can't help but feel that this is a make-or-break kind of situation for McFarlane. All these new figures with full articulation and everything really represents a big investment and I hope it works out for him. This could be a pretty big swing and a miss, financially speaking, if the line flops. But DC has a pretty big pre-existing market, regardless of quality (look at the dogshit that Mattel churned out for years), so they should do okay.

[jwyss234]

I found some in hand Superman pics and a quick review of him on Youtube.

I also found a comparison shot of the normal Batman with the SK Batman by Mezco.

[DarkEyes]

Damn, Batman looks fantastic. Originally didn't want to buy this version of Batman but watching those comparison pics, I will have to do that. Didn't want to buy all the waves but looks like I'm closer to do that!

Pre-ordered!
Also pre-ordered Nightwing, can't wait!

Superman pre-orders are sold out on Walmart. These figures became very popular. Could not get one.

[Dr Kain]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorn88

Let me guess. Wah, wah, wah everything sucks wah. *Complain* *Complain* *Complain*

Can't stand that guy.

I do not like what I am seeing for these figures, but even I got tired of listening to him tear these guys apart. He also got pissed at me for correcting him about Arrow getting canceled.

He was right about Superman's thighs being too small though. God does Sups look bad. Then again, they all look bad.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by DarkEyes

Damn, Batman looks fantastic. Originally didn't want to buy this version of Batman but watching those comparison pics, I will have to do that. Didn't want to buy all the waves but looks like I'm closer to do that!

Pre-ordered!
Also pre-ordered Batwing, can't wait!

Superman pre-orders are sold out on Walmart. These figures became very popular. Could not get one.

I'd say it's more that stores are only taking preorders for an initial case or two.

You'll see everyone peg warming come July, especially the Mecha Batman, Babadook Batman, and Parademon Superman.

[Dolemite]

The ab-joints on Batman and Superman look SOOOOO bad.