[JerpJerp]

Wtf those heman heads…they fixed the size but the whole sculpt is bad. The hair, the look *bleck* come on MATTEL!

[lordbest]

He-Man isn't enough of an improvement to make me get him over the first release. Skeletor annoyingly is but I still don't want too. Mer-Man and Teela are must-haves, though. I wasn't sure they would do a classic style Teela, hopefully this means classic Lynand God-Lyn are likelier than not.

[Dr Kain]

That Teela looks better with the long hair. Mer-Man looks so bland. Where's his armor?

[EvilMonkeyPope]

Like Beast-Man, Mer-Man dressed skimpier post-timeskip for furry fanservice.

[EternianJerkian]

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That Teela looks better with the long hair. Mer-Man looks so bland. Where's his armor?

He went back to the sea and it's difficult to swim with armour on.

[IzzyTipsy]

I wonder if that Teela hair down head would fit on the first version. That would be a cool look.

[EternianJerkian]

Aye, it should do. Wave 2 Teela and Wave 1 Evil-Lyn have the same size neck joint and I've seen Wave 2 Teela wearing Wave 3 Andra's masked head so I assume they all share a common female neck joint so I see no reason that should change for Wave 4 Teela. But sometimes toy companies like to screw with ya. lol

[EvilMonkeyPope]

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He-Man isn't enough of an improvement to make me get him over the first release. Skeletor annoyingly is but I still don't want too. Mer-Man and Teela are must-haves, though. I wasn't sure they would do a classic style Teela, hopefully this means classic Lynand God-Lyn are likelier than not.

The next two assortments are rumored to contain zero Revelation characters, which has me very worried about Mattel not making those.

[Dr Kain]

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Like Beast-Man, Mer-Man dressed skimpier post-timeskip for furry fanservice.

Time skip?

[EvilMonkeyPope]

After the first episode of MOTUR, the story jumps ahead a few years.

[Spectre]

I was hoping for the Sorceress Teela from the finale...

[Dr Kain]

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After the first episode of MOTUR, the story jumps ahead a few years.

That's weird. You would think they would spend time developing the characters before doing a time jump, especially since the season is only five episodes. Don't they need to establish who everyone is first?

[EvilMonkeyPope]

It's really a 10 episode season Netflix arbitrarily cut in half. It works well enough when you watch it.

[Dr Kain]

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It's really a 10 episode season Netflix arbitrarily cut in half. It works well enough when you watch it.

Yeah, I'm waiting until all 10 episodes are out before I even bother. I just don't see a point in investing my time in only 5.

[80sforged]

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Yeah, I'm waiting until all 10 episodes are out before I even bother. I just don't see a point in investing my time in only 5.

The second half of season 1 came out already. They first aired Nov. 23rd.

[EternianJerkian]

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That's weird. You would think they would spend time developing the characters before doing a time jump, especially since the season is only five episodes. Don't they need to establish who everyone is first?

It's aimed at older fans who already know the general jist of the characters based on the 80s cartoon, the old mini-comics, some of the 2002 stuff etc. There's even a couple throwbacks to the british storybooks by Ladydbird that often came with a cassette tape to listen to the story while you read the book. lol. It's technically it's own thing but using the past characterisations as foundation to a more mature tone and portrayal. And aye, as mentioned it's a ten episode show. It was originally announced as a direct sequel to the 80s show but evolved during production into more of it's own take in tone and storyline but does follow up on a few things. Much of Teela and Evil-Lyn's converging plots follow up on a chat they had in the 80s episode The Witch and the Warrior. Anyways aye, first half was in July ending on a cliffhanger and second half was in November. My mate said there was some production issue which caused them to split the season in two like has happened with some other shows in the past couple of years due to covid and other things. Like the later episodes needed more time to get finished but Mattel had already released toys to stores and needed the show broadcast to help sell them and so aye first five were released in July. Watched the whole thing with my kid even though there are some parts that aren't 'kid-friendly' and we both loved it lol Also the soundtrack is by the chap who did the God of War PS4 soundtrack and so that's aces too.

[EternianJerkian]

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The next two assortments are rumored to contain zero Revelation characters, which has me very worried about Mattel not making those.

Aye, but what my mate tells me, believe it when I see it. Mattel got a lot of fans invested in the Revelation characters and some people are only collecting Masterverse line for those particular versions so would be poor business sense to then make those collectors feel alienated while you try to push non-Rev stuff onto them.

[jscott991]

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The next two assortments are rumored to contain zero Revelation characters, which has me very worried about Mattel not making those.

I've heard this too.

It supposedly has to do with sales of the wave 1 figures, along with some fan reaction.

I personally won't be sad to see them go. The post-time skip looks were never to my taste (particularly Teela) and the pre-time skip characters were marred by the small head issue.

I'd rather they focus on New Eternia designs or updating some of the classic looks with the new articulation.

[EternianJerkian]

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I've heard this too.

It supposedly has to do with sales of the wave 1 figures, along with some fan reaction.

I personally won't be sad to see them go. The post-time skip looks were never to my taste (particularly Teela) and the pre-time skip characters were marred by the small head issue.

I'd rather they focus on New Eternia designs or updating some of the classic looks with the new articulation.

Well, me, my kid and my best mate are only really into it for the Revelation stuff so if that's it over with then we're done too. If Viking He-Man and Barbarian Skeletor are the general level of New Eternia stuff I'm not really feeling it. They both look kinda goofy to me. I know some aspects of them are based on concept arts from before even the 80s figures but still. Not my thing. Anyways Mattel have said the Masterverse line has actually been a big hit and it won an Action Figure of the Year Award from some toy association and there's a lot of fans demanding more from the show and a new season of the show itself too. I hadn't bought toys for myself since forever, bar the odd single purchase here and there, but I've been really hooked on all the Rev stuff. Loving it all. My kid too. He far prefers the Rev figures over the more kid-appeal CGI show figures which he described as 'baby toys' lol

I bloody love 'time-skip Teela'. And not just because she looks like the mother of my kid used to (before she got long covid that made her have to give up her job as personal trainer and other related things). I just think she has a great look to her. Just wish the head on the action figure looked more like the one on the show. The figure's facial features are far too soft like she's a kid instead of a strong woman and has a very blank soulless stare lol.

[jscott991]

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Anyways Mattel have said the Masterverse line has actually been a big hit and it won an Action Figure of the Year Award from some toy association and there's a lot of fans demanding more from the show and a new season of the show itself too.

In general with these line relaunches we've had in the last few years (G.I. Joe with Classified, Transformers with Siege/WFC figures, and He-Man with Masterverse and Origins), the toymakers have learned that while there might be fans of the new media, it's the fans of the original properties that tend to buy the actual merchandise (this is even true for Star Wars). It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Masterverse veer back toward the 80s looks to more strongly appeal to the people who are actually buying most of the collectible figures.

I already have an extensive MOTUC collection so I'd almost prefer Mattel to not take Masterverse in that direction and tempt me to buy everyone again. But I would have a hard time passing up a Filmation-looking Evil-Lyn, the upcoming New Eternia She-Ra, or a Classic Sorceress.

I was actually pleased that the Revelations Skeletor, He-Man, and Man-at-Arms looked so bad (again, small head syndrome and bizarre Skeletor head sculpt) but the New Eternia Skeletor has brought me back in.

[EternianJerkian]

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Originally Posted by jscott991

In general with these line relaunches we've had in the last few years (G.I. Joe with Classified, Transformers with Siege/WFC figures, and He-Man with Masterverse and Origins), the toymakers have learned that while there might be fans of the new media, it's the fans of the original properties that tend to buy the actual merchandise (this is even true for Star Wars). It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Masterverse veer back toward the 80s looks to more strongly appeal to the people who are actually buying most of the collectible figures.

I already have an extensive MOTUC collection so I'd almost prefer Mattel to not take Masterverse in that direction and tempt me to buy everyone again. But I would have a hard time passing up a Filmation-looking Evil-Lyn, the upcoming New Eternia She-Ra, or a Classic Sorceress.

I was actually pleased that the Revelations Skeletor, He-Man, and Man-at-Arms looked so bad (again, small head syndrome and bizarre Skeletor head sculpt) but the New Eternia Skeletor has brought me back in.

Mate I loved MotU as a kid. It was my favourite thing but Revelation figures have been the first time I've ever wanted to buy MotU toys again. Origins doesn't appeal to me because I prefer more realism. And Classics never appealed to me for various reasons like how hard they were to get and how bloody ugly some of them were. He-Man's face was more creepy than Skeletor's. Especially with the weird paint choices some of the releases had where he looked like he had allergies with the reddishness around his eyes. lol. Plus I don't like the bodies on the Classics with their bloated torsos and huge pin holes and weird legs (especially noticable on the stupidly named "Oo-Lar", goddamn Scott Neitlich lol)

The hell you on about with that last bit. He-Man and Skeletor are great figures that just needed better heads. Which I bought from a customiser. Man-At-Arms though already looked aces and is one of my favourite figures I've ever owned. I even just bought the Origins Wind Raider for him to sit in after my mate showed me they fit together. lol. Classic Man-At-Arms had some nice extra details aye (it wasn't designed for animation after all) but the head was still mostly based on the weird squished looking square head of the original figure which always bugged the hell out of me as a kid and why I hate the Origins figure even if it has his moustache that was missing off the vintage lol. I'm super happy with the Revelation figure. I just wish he had a few more accessories like a gun or tools or something in addition to his orange club. And Rev Man-At-Arms has got himself quite a following now too and the nickname 'Daddy Duncan'. lol.

[jscott991]

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The hell you on about with that last bit. He-Man and Skeletor are great figures that just needed better heads. Which I bought from a customiser. Man-At-Arms though already looked aces and is one of my favourite figures I've ever owned.

You are an odd fellow.

You swore at me as though you thought I was crazy, and then completely agreed with my point. I passed on Revelations He-Man and Skeletor because of the heads (too small, weird sculpts) and you just agreed they need better heads.

Man-At-Arms has the same problem. His head is too small for his body. They explained at some point that this was the Revelations style when defending it. It's why the New Eternia figures have more properly sized heads (or at least seem to). All of the reviews talked about this for He-Man, Skeletor, and Man-At-Arms (along with Evil-Lyn's lack of a neck).

I will agree with you that MOTUC never made a good "normal" He-Man or Skeletor. All of my MOTUC Skeletors use custom heads. But I think this New Eternia version looks pretty good.

[EternianJerkian]

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You are an odd fellow.

You swore at me as though you thought I was crazy, and then completely agreed with my point. I passed on Revelations He-Man and Skeletor because of the heads (too small, weird sculpts) and you just agreed they need better heads.

No mate. I was saying He-Man and Skeletor were great figures despite the Mattel heads and that Man-At-Arms is one of my fave ever figures. I'm not agreeing with you 'completely' at all. Maybe partially. A smidgey bit. Where did I swear? Is hell a swear these days? lol. I nearly used the F word instead before I caught myself. I'm trying to use the worse words less these days because my kid called me out for a being a bit of a potty mouth some time ago. lol.

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Man-At-Arms has the same problem. His head is too small for his body. They explained at some point that this was the Revelations style when defending it. It's why the New Eternia figures have more properly sized heads (or at least seem to). All of the reviews talked about this for He-Man, Skeletor, and Man-At-Arms (along with Evil-Lyn's lack of a neck).

That's weird. Never had any issue with my Lyn. It's Teela who has a 'lack of neck' which is why I tend to have her head not sat all the way down on the peg. Just enough to be secure and turn but not enough to click all the way down. Only thing I hated about Lyn was the bag strap wouldn't stay on her shoulder properly but my mate showed me how to 'unglue' the fur collar a bit and slide the strap under there which makes it more accurate anyway lol I want more Lyn. I want the 'classic' Lyn from the first episode. I want sultry Bat-Lyn when Skeletor makes her the Sorceress. I want meaty God-Lyn when she takes the power of Grayskull. And I want the final Lyn who my mate just told me is refered to as 'Liberated' on some model sheet thing. So aye Liberated Lyn. All the Lyns. I have the money. lol. Oh and Teela as Sorceress. She looks sweet. And the original Sorcy too.

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I will agree with you that MOTUC never made a good "normal" He-Man or Skeletor. All of my MOTUC Skeletors use custom heads. But I think this New Eternia version looks pretty good.

Aye I think the Barbarian Skeletor looks fine if you're having it as a 'Classic' Skeletor. The goatee 'demo man' head and the bulky cape armour don't do anything for me. And I may get it just to be a classic to have it in the same style as my Rev Skels like himself from another universe or whatever. That's the in-thing these days ain't it? Multiverses. lol. Long past the point where studios and companies though multiple versions of the same character would 'confuse the audience' (though I must admit I had a friend who seemed convinced The Dark Knight was a follow up to the 1989 Batman and wondered how the Joker survived his fall from the church. I even saw both movies with the guy so I know he saw them, I just can't imagine how he convinced himself both films are in any way the same continuity lol), now they got multiple versions all being in the same film like No Way Home. lol.

[jscott991]

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No mate. I was saying He-Man and Skeletor were great figures despite the Mattel heads and that Man-At-Arms is one of my fave ever figures. I'm not agreeing with you 'completely' at all. Maybe partially. A smidgey bit. Where did I swear? Is hell a swear these days? lol. I nearly used the F word instead before I caught myself. I'm trying to use the worse words less these days because my kid called me out for a being a bit of a potty mouth some time ago. lol.

Well, then let me say that I completely agree with you then. Revelations He-Man and Skeletor need new heads. I passed on them for that reason, you bought them and fixed the heads. Different solutions to the same problem.

I'm going to step away from this discussion now because I enjoyed it and don't want it to get acrimonious.

Suffice it say, I hope you get the Revelations figures you want someday, but I'd prefer to get updated 80s versions (with properly sized heads).

[EternianJerkian]

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Well, then let me say that I completely agree with you then. Revelations He-Man and Skeletor need new heads. I passed on them for that reason, you bought them and fixed the heads. Different solutions to the same problem.

I'm going to step away from this discussion now because I enjoyed it and don't want it to get acrimonious.

Suffice it say, I hope you get the Revelations figures you want someday, but I'd prefer to get updated 80s versions (with properly sized heads).

Aye, to me though Revelations are the 80s versions updated. Particularly their appearances in episode 1 before the 'time skip'. I think Teela's updated 'classic' costume shown at the start of this thread being being released in the new wave, is a much better upgrade to the old swim suit with swirly breast bits she shared with Evil-Lyn when the old toys were the same body lol.

I have to go google 'acrimonious' because I'm a little ashamed to say I don't know that word lol. If my kid was here I bet he'd know it. He's a right little brainiac. The good kind. Not the shrinking city kind that Superman keeps foiling the plans of. lol. But aye have a good day, mate.


Just nabbed another of my mate's pics of his He-Man lol. I need to try painting some extra apps onto mine. But aye he has the Battle Cat I haven't managed to get yet. But aye this looks like my ideal He-Man here.