[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

What's up with this Drakken dude? Is he supposed to be some woke Wolverine?

Daken, he's Logan's illegitimate Japanese son he had at some point with a woman who was only created to add more grief to his backstory (like it needed more). He was actually a villain for a good while running but after being put down by his old man and then coming back through some typically complicated comics shenanigans he's gotten a new not-evil lease on life.

[MeLikeJinx]

^ I am shocked we haven't gotten a new Daken yet... maybe they are just waiting to do all the Dark Avengers in one wave or have plans for Dark Avengers in the MCU. I think Sony and Disney Marvel are on good terms again with No Way Home making bazillion dollars, so Sony would probably let them use Venom in the MCU.

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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123

not surprising the mehternals are still clogging the shelves. Nobody wants these figures cause they came from such a dull looking movie.

Shang-chi was a surprise box office hit I think... 70 million opening weekend? And Shang-chi toys probably sold only slightly better than Eternals toys did. I'm thinking Disney/Marvel will never have another Guardians of the Galaxy moment again in which a lower tier franchise suddenly becomes A-tier.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx

Shang-chi was a surprise box office hit I think... 70 million opening weekend? And Shang-chi toys probably sold only slightly better than Eternals toys did. I'm thinking Disney/Marvel will never have another Guardians of the Galaxy moment again in which a lower tier franchise suddenly becomes A-tier.

Shang Chi did well at the box office (given when it released) but the merchandise suffered from dropping so far ahead of the movie that by the time the movie did come out stores were trying to clearance the merch if they hadn't already. Now it is still entirely that had the Shang Chi toys released closer to the movie they still wouldn't have moved too well but that's not how it happened so we can't know. Eternals merchandise seems to be a more straight-forward case of the movie not enticing people to buy the products.

[TheBlueMarvel]

I wouldn't characterize Guardians of the Galaxy as a bottom rung franchise, nor an obscure property that owes it's celebrity strictly to the MCU film. Annihilation, which was so popular as an event that Marvel was planning an animated feature (only to have licensing issues with the cosmic FF related mainstays involved derail the effort), set the stage for Annihilation: Conquest and the birth of DnA's Guardians of the Galaxy. DnA's run on the title established the Guardians as a bonified commodity in 2008 well before the 2014 movie. DnA's (Dan Abbett & Andy Lanning) tone and use of humor in conjunction with weighty conundrums of cosmic relevance was ported over almost exactly in presentation for the film.

The MCU didn't make Guardians of the Galaxy a thing as much as they were smart for choosing a franchise that already enjoyed a great deal of popularity within the modern comic-reader context and lexicon. That's a bit like saying Michael Bay made Transformers popular, or these new Godzilla flics put the character on the map.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Daken, he's Logan's illegitimate Japanese son he had at some point with a woman who was only created to add more grief to his backstory (like it needed more). He was actually a villain for a good while running but after being put down by his old man and then coming back through some typically complicated comics shenanigans he's gotten a new not-evil lease on life.

So his mom is not Mariko?

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So his mom is not Mariko?

No. This is taken from Wikipedia because I didn't remember her name:
Daken was the son of Wolverine and his Japanese wife, Itsu. In 1946, Itsu, while in the last stages of her pregnancy, was murdered by the Winter Soldier in an attempt to draw Wolverine out and return him to the custody of Madripoor.

[Cyclopswc]

So how many off-springs does Logan have now? Besides Daken? Laura Kinney (X-23) is technically Logan, since she's his clone, not his daughter, even though they treat them as such. (Same with Jango and Boba). I remember back in the Toybiz days there was another female Wolverine that's Logan's daughter from another timeline? But I can't find anything on her now, "female Wolverine" google results all came up with Laura Kinney.

[TheBlueMarvel]

Wild Thing (Wolverine and Elektra) and Sabreclaw (mother unknown) from the 982 (Avengers Next) universe.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Wild Thing (Wolverine and Elektra) and Sabreclaw (mother unknown) from the 982 (Avengers Next) universe.

And jim hudson from the utlimate verse whos now in the regular marvel verse.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

And jim hudson from the utlimate verse whos now in the regular marvel verse.

Sure, but the OP mentioned a "female Wolverine" from a different timeline. I only mentioned Sabreclaw because he's Wild Thing's brother.

[Cyclopswc]

Thank you all. So Daken, Jim Hudson, Wild Thing and Sabreclaw.

Although Sabreclaw looks more like the son of Sabretooth.

[Spyne98]

There's also Raze, the (future) son of Wolverine and Mystique. He's a shape shifter with claws. He showed up in the All New X-Men run by Bendis.
There's also a group called the Mongrels. Here's some info on them. It's...a lot.
Formed by a group of people who had all been tragically affected by Wolverine, the Red Right Hand was an organization committed to Wolverine's downfall, planning to send his soul to hell. Of all the Red Right Hand's members, none hated Wolverine more than the Mongrels, a group of mercenary mutants who volunteered to personally destroy Wolverine's life.
Wolverine encounters them in "Wolverine" Vol. 4 #10 after being lured to their base in Mexico, and there an epic battle begins. Although each of the Mongrels is a skilled combatant, Wolverine bests and kills them one by one. Only after this does he find out that Gunhawk, Shadowstalker, Fire Knives, Saw Fist and Cannon Foot were all his children, leaving him devastated. To honor them, Wolverine buries his slain children with their mothers.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Cyclopswc

Although Sabreclaw looks more like the son of Sabretooth.

I didn't get it at the time either, but were talking about a 982 timeline that included "J2" Juggernaut's son who wore a similar costume with a flannel shirt tied around his waist because...Nirvana and Grunge.

[Cyclopswc]

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Originally Posted by Spyne98

There's also Raze, the (future) son of Wolverine and Mystique. He's a shape shifter with claws. He showed up in the All New X-Men run by Bendis.
There's also a group called the Mongrels. Here's some info on them. It's...a lot.
Formed by a group of people who had all been tragically affected by Wolverine, the Red Right Hand was an organization committed to Wolverine's downfall, planning to send his soul to hell. Of all the Red Right Hand's members, none hated Wolverine more than the Mongrels, a group of mercenary mutants who volunteered to personally destroy Wolverine's life.
Wolverine encounters them in "Wolverine" Vol. 4 #10 after being lured to their base in Mexico, and there an epic battle begins. Although each of the Mongrels is a skilled combatant, Wolverine bests and kills them one by one. Only after this does he find out that Gunhawk, Shadowstalker, Fire Knives, Saw Fist and Cannon Foot were all his children, leaving him devastated. To honor them, Wolverine buries his slain children with their mothers.

Wow. Fights like a Wolverine, breeds like a rabbit!

Thank you all. All these characters I've never even heard of!

[En Sabah Nerd]

In the sequels to the original AoA Logan was revealed to have had a daughter with Mariko named Kirika.

[firmpulse]

Been waiting 30 years for this figure

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Been waiting 30 years for this figure

It is pretty damned nice. One of the few Legends that have made me question my "one figure per character" rule.

[JCarterVA]

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Originally Posted by Cyclopswc

Wow. Fights like a Wolverine, breeds like a rabbit!

Thank you all. All these characters I've never even heard of!

Wolverine also had a son with a woman in the Savage Land during a One-shot deluxe format comic from late 1980s. I no longer have the comic but I remember it.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Been waiting 30 years for this figure

Is that your photo? Is the wave shipping?

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Is that your photo? Is the wave shipping?

Firmpulse here gets (almost) everything early...




...the bastard

[TheBlueMarvel]

Lol yeah, I know how that goes, I just haven't seen the wave available from Hong Kong, or Taiwan even. I haven't been looking, but will now. I could go for a Spidey and Hammerhead ahead of my preorder. Well, depending on how much the gouge is...

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Is that your photo? Is the wave shipping?

Yes and yes.

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Originally Posted by Sataninjaku

Firmpulse here gets (almost) everything early...
...the bastard

You know I heart you Jaku.

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Yes and yes.



You know I heart you Jaku.

Right back atcha, good buddy.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Yes and yes.

Thanks, I found retro Hammerhead, Vision, and Scarlet Witch last night.

[Sataninjaku]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Thanks, I found retro Hammerhead, Vision, and Scarlet Witch last night.

Online or in-store?