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Shin Densetsu 01-08-2010 06:05 PM

Which Marvel Universe Molds Should Be Retired
 
We all know that the 1st mold that Hasbro would retire for Marvel Universe was the Punisher mold. They used it at least 4 times, twice for Punisher, once for Blade, and another time for Black Panther.

Upon release, it was the weakest figure in the line and not really missed(Punisher). So the question is, which figure molds do you want to see retired next? I think the following won't be sorely missed if retired:
  • Black Spiderman body
  • Daredevil body
  • Hulk
The Black Spiderman body has hindered articulation, and the sculpt looks a bit too thick. It worked better for Iron Fist than as Spiderman. The Daredevil body has been used too many times. It's redeeming qualities are excellent range of motion. It's worst qualities are the open left hand which can't hold any weapons(*see New Cap/Moon Knight/Union Jack*), and the torso is just too damn short.

Now don't get me wrong, I still WANT TO SEE Black Spiderman, New Captain America, Daredevil, Union Jack, Hulk, and Daredevil figures in the line, just not using the original molds! Daredevil should be athletic and tall, Hulk ought to have functional hips, any character with more than one weapon ought to be able to use both weapons simultaneously, and Black Spiderman should look slender and especially not hindered/funky articulation. I mean come on, SPIDERMAN?

Seeing New Captain America, quite possibly the most highly anticipated MU figure for me this year, end up using the Daredevil body was the final straw. New Cap, a character that Brubaker made into an AWESOME temp Cap, deserved better.

Surprisingly enough, I think the decent Iron Man from wave 1 will be outdated the minute the Extremis version comes out in a few months. The Extremis version is more articulated, and looks so much better.

I thought the Hulk would be great until I tried moving his joints. The hips are terrible. Articulation at the hips is nearly non-existent.

So which molds do you want to see retired?

RenegadeReviews 01-08-2010 06:58 PM

First off, "SPIDER-MAN". Second, I am a fan of the Black Costumed Spider-Man mold. Especially in its use as Iron Fist. I don't really see it as very hindered.

What we truly need is our Daredevil mold to become as tall as Black suit Spidey or MU Wolverine, and our Wolverine to become as short as Daredevil. Some swapping and remolding could make that pretty easy.

Honestly though, I see the awesome Guardian mold becoming heavily used heavily quick (which is probably good).

ad1976 01-08-2010 09:49 PM

The mold they have used for all of the females so far (Black Widow too as it looks) has been the same and should be changed.

LUCKYDUBE 01-08-2010 10:06 PM

I wish Hasbro would make 5 inch figures for bigger characters like Hulk and juggs. I really wish they used Guardians mold for Magneto. as for the Daredevil mold it must go into the trash bin along with Pun and Black Spidey. I love Wolverines mold to much to complain that he is to tall, I couldnt see Wolverine made out of the Daredevil mold. IMO alot of Marvel Universes molds dont look uniform? what im trying to say is if you didnt know any marvel characters and picked up a Pun,Daredevil and Wolverine fig you would think that they were all from different toy lines.

LUCKYDUBE 01-08-2010 10:15 PM

PS We need new female molds with huge melons and Jean Grey looks like a chicken head!

ludovicotek 01-09-2010 04:45 PM

I like the "Black Spider-Man" body, although it was really used first for Iron Fist and Human Torch. It is one of my favorite body types in the line.

I agree with the problems concerning the "Daredevil" body. If they fixed that open left hand and made the torso longer it would be a winner.

Kluster Bombs 01-09-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludovicotek (Post 39174)
I like the "Black Spider-Man" body, although it was really used first for Iron Fist and Human Torch. It is one of my favorite body types in the line.

I agree with the problems concerning the "Daredevil" body. If they fixed that open left hand and made the torso longer it would be a winner.

Actually the "Black Spidey" body is not the same as Iron Fist v.1 and Human Torch. They re-made Iron Fist v.2 from the "Black Spidey" mold. I like this sculpt for Spidey and Iron Fist but it looked ugly on SDCC Namor.

DD body only worked for Union Jack IMO. Maybe it was the darker paint that made it better but still needs to be retired.

We also need a new PUNISHER!! That mold they used should have never been made.

Ghost Story 01-09-2010 06:01 PM

where can i see the difference between Iron Fist v1 and v2. I never liked the first one becasue of the huge ball joints.

ludovicotek 01-09-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kluster Bombs (Post 39177)
Actually the "Black Spidey" body is not the same as Iron Fist v.1 and Human Torch. They re-made Iron Fist v.2 from the "Black Spidey" mold. I like this sculpt for Spidey and Iron Fist but it looked ugly on SDCC Namor.

DD body only worked for Union Jack IMO. Maybe it was the darker paint that made it better but still needs to be retired.

We also need a new PUNISHER!! That mold they used should have never been made.

Damn. You're right. I thought it was the same body but after looking at them I can see the differences. Still, they are similar.

Kluster Bombs 01-09-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Story (Post 39180)
where can i see the difference between Iron Fist v1 and v2. I never liked the first one becasue of the huge ball joints.

There was a pic of the two next to each other but don't remember where.

edit: Here is a pic from Marvelous News.

http://marvelousnews.com/database/gv...ze=600&start=0

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludovicotek (Post 39181)
Damn. You're right. I thought it was the same body but after looking at them I can see the differences. Still, they are similar.

Yeah they are similar and I wonder if they are going to retire the first Iron Fist/ Human Torch mold.

Ghost Story 01-09-2010 07:33 PM

thanks

trebleshot 01-09-2010 09:58 PM

I'd say the Daredevil mold tops my list. The female mold doesn't necessarily need to be retired yet, but an alternate should be introduced for heroes that don't exactly fit (She-Hulk, for one).

The original Hulk mold should take a powder as well, along with Punisher. Black Spidey I'm fine with as long as they don't use it for Spider-Man himself anymore.

Snowflakian 02-02-2010 11:24 AM

The X-Force wolverine upper torso needs to be retired badly.

I can deal with all the other parts in the library they've got to mix and match, but that upper torso just plain sucks. The neck is too hunched over for any decent poses, and for a character who's short, he looks down too often. You can make him look straight forward but then his neck is so hunched over it looks funny. That torso is just utter pure fail. Great figure, ruined by a horrible neck.

The rest of the library of parts has much that could be done, as customs have shown with Cable from punishers body, and more.

Shin Densetsu 02-02-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 39201)
I'd say the Daredevil mold tops my list. The female mold doesn't necessarily need to be retired yet, but an alternate should be introduced for heroes that don't exactly fit (She-Hulk, for one).

The original Hulk mold should take a powder as well, along with Punisher. Black Spidey I'm fine with as long as they don't use it for Spider-Man himself anymore.

AGREED! The original Hulk got some love from fans but I was disappointed with it. He can barely move his legs! The hips are pretty much useless!

coyote31770 02-02-2010 11:32 AM

The wolverine faces, X-force and brown suit look constipated.


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