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Joe Moore 08-07-2013 08:02 AM

Four Horsemen Talk MOTUC and DC Subs
 
Four Horsemen Warn MOTUC and DCUC Could Be Cancelled

avcprime 08-07-2013 08:16 AM

Well the economy is also hard on the collectors. I know Mattel can do wonders with the DC line they just suck at getting it right.

ichnach 08-07-2013 08:32 AM

you might get more subscriptions if people knew what they were getting in advance. It's hard to fork over cash when you know half of what you are paying for is crap filler characters instead of real "classics."

CMIII 08-07-2013 08:47 AM

Well I signed up those of you who don't want to then we get nothing. Don't even bother cherry picking because it proves by not signing up you really do not want them, and could careless about there even being a DC Line. I will say If they only get to tier 1 because you do not sign up don't complain. For those of you waiting Just sign up already I have a feeling this will be the last time Mattel does a DC Club line because why bother if people just refuse to do anything. Those of you who want to cherry pick let me tell you you won't be cherry picking if there is no line because you only wanted 2 figures as I've said if you don't want X figure just turn around and sell it.

Enigma2K2 08-07-2013 08:48 AM

Maybe they SHOULD cancel them... and let the license go to someone who knows what the hell they're doing.

Enigma2K2 08-07-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454023)
Well I signed up those of you who don't want to then we get nothing. Don't even bother cherry picking because it proves by not signing up you really do not want them, and could careless about there even being a DC Line. I will say If they only get to tier 1 because you do not sign up don't complain. For those of you waiting Just sign up already I have a feeling this will be the last time Mattel does a DC Club line because why bother if people just refuse to do anything. Those of you who want to cherry pick let me tell you you won't be cherry picking if there is no line because you only wanted 2 figures as I've said if you don't want X figure just turn around and sell it.

NOBODY'S gonna by a bunch of high priced figures they don't want or a club subscription just to appease you and MattyCollector. Maybe they should change things on the other end.

CMIII 08-07-2013 08:51 AM

no there just wont be MOTU or DCU lines because if I was Mattel I would pull them and Hold the license. It's apparent nobody wants the lines.

As for appeasing me don't buy the subsription I could careless what you do with your money. But if Mattel doesn't do DCU line then I will automatically stop wasting money on Hasbro Stuff because I will want to see them shut down too Marvel Stuff is horrendous anyway

Quote:

NOBODY'S gonna by a bunch of high priced figures or a club subscription just to appease you and MattyCollector. Maybe they should change things on the other end.
Then Stop buying figures altogether

daredevil96 08-07-2013 08:55 AM

Hold on a second. Are they just talking about canceling The club Infinite Earth or the whole DCUC line like the ones found in retail stores??

thefreakofsteel 08-07-2013 08:59 AM

That's ok I prefer Dc Collectibles DC line anyway. They new line up they just revealed at SDCC is amazing. I cant wait for the Court of Owls and Nightwing. Its fine with me if they stop Motu and Dcuc figures because they are the ones going to lose money. Just more money saved for me to spend on Dc figures and Marvel Legends.

CMIII 08-07-2013 09:00 AM

Well the Club line may be cancelled and the DC Unlimited line has been cancelled and replaced by a Crappy Cartoony line for 2014. DCUC was cancelled in late 2011, DC All Stars Cancelled Spring 2012, and DC Unlimited this Summer

Super_Megatron 08-07-2013 11:03 AM

Personally I only buy the MOTUC characters I am interested in, so a sub doesn't make any sense to me. I have a feeling those popular characters would still get made if the sub doesn't happen, as they would still sell.

bigkid24 08-07-2013 12:05 PM

I think it's time for the subscription model to die. Then maybe Mattel will be forced to figure out how to manage a line at retail. Hasbro managed to do it with the DC license and they are managing a Marvel license now. So why is Mattel so messed up that they don't know how to manage a retail line?!

One way or another Mattel will do something with the DC license. I'm sure they paid too much for it to let it idle.

Computron34 08-07-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigkid24 (Post 454056)
I think it's time for the subscription model to die. Then maybe Mattel will be forced to figure out how to manage a line at retail. Hasbro managed to do it with the DC license and they are managing a Marvel license now. So why is Mattel so messed up that they don't know how to manage a retail line?!

Because non of these lines are Barbie.

CMIII 08-07-2013 01:38 PM

I have a feeling that Mattel will end all DC lines period. Why make something if people do not want it?

To me cherry Picking is "I don't care enough about any figures so I can live without getting the ones I want"

avcprime 08-07-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454023)
Well I signed up those of you who don't want to then we get nothing. Don't even bother cherry picking because it proves by not signing up you really do not want them, and could careless about there even being a DC Line. I will say If they only get to tier 1 because you do not sign up don't complain. For those of you waiting Just sign up already I have a feeling this will be the last time Mattel does a DC Club line because why bother if people just refuse to do anything. Those of you who want to cherry pick let me tell you you won't be cherry picking if there is no line because you only wanted 2 figures as I've said if you don't want X figure just turn around and sell it.

Do do make a fine point, but Mattel thinks they are the only ones affected by the economy. We are too. Plus like some one mentioned it is mattel's job to advertise the line, if it can't create demand for its line then they need a new marketing team too.

BAD MOON 08-07-2013 04:03 PM

I have been a MOTUC subscriber since the beginning and have loved every minute of it. These are the best action figures coming out and they come out consistently every month. All of the figures are sculpted by the epic Four Horsemen, who are among the best in the business if not the best. Also, Scott "ToyGuru" actually cares to communicate with the fans very regularly about the product.

I subscribed to MOTUC again for 2014 and would subscribe to the DC Classics sub if I could afford it. Well worth the money and commitment.

CMIII 08-07-2013 04:33 PM

I think Mattel and Four Horsemen need to be more direct and flat out say If we don't get the Subscriptions then we wont produce any lines (Store or Subscription).

Do it Bad Moon you know you want to :D

CMIII 08-07-2013 04:34 PM

By the way I don't like the sculpts of Hasbro anyway

FETT1 08-07-2013 04:43 PM

..MATTEL/HASBRO is in business to make toy's ..but making money for the stock holders is numero uno!..Plain and simple!
MATTEL has no idea how to market a toy ..MATTYCOLLECTOR may be a good idea for USA COLLECTOR's ,but for those outside the US of eh..it down right sucks!..HIGH S/H ..CUSTOMS..blah blah ...
Plus I have read more than once that a few SUBSCRIPTION toyline's end up at discount retailer's around the globe!
BOTTOM LINE if you want the toy's BUY em...if not,buy something else COoL...like 60's toy's ...now that's COoL!

PlUs MATTeL's "matty " freaks me OUTT! :-}

CMIII 08-07-2013 04:50 PM

there are a number of Retailers who buy multiple subscriptions and sell them for a lot more then what they sell for on day of sale which honestly more power to them at least they add to subs totals. Heck if I could I would by as many subs as I could if it meant we got these figures but I cannot.

Enigma2K2 08-07-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454027)
no there just wont be MOTU or DCU lines because if I was Mattel I would pull them and Hold the license. It's apparent nobody wants the lines.

So your solution is to take your ball and go home, and prevent anyone else from playing with it? GENIUS!!![/sarcasm]

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454027)
As for appeasing me don't buy the subsription I could careless what you do with your money. But if Mattel doesn't do DCU line then I will automatically stop wasting money on Hasbro Stuff because I will want to see them shut down too Marvel Stuff is horrendous anyway

Yeah but to their credit, Hasbro gets their s*** out there for you to buy. No subscription necessary.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454027)
Then Stop buying figures altogether

Why? MattyCollector ain't f****** up everybody else's toylines.

CMIII 08-07-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

So your solution is to take your ball and go home, and prevent anyone else from playing with it? GENIUS!!![/sarcasm]
Why waste my money on crap I don't want? no but it would stop people who really don't want figures from having them all is fair in a Free Market system blocking Hasbro then shutting them down would be my goal

Quote:

Yeah but to their credit, Hasbro gets their s*** out there for you to buy. No subscription necessary.
On stuff that lacks quality. Well maybe Hasbro needs to do a Subscription line so they can go belly up where they belong because with what they put out the Quality looks like a something I pulled out of a Trash can

Quote:

Why? MattyCollector ain't f****** up everybody else's toylines.
Because not showing interest in one line shows that you could live without any line. In my eyes whats the point of putting out action figures at all from any company if you don't want one.

I find Hasbro just shoves out figures with the worst quality

Riddick 08-07-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454027)
no there just wont be MOTU or DCU lines because if I was Mattel I would pull them and Hold the license. It's apparent nobody wants the lines.

As for appeasing me don't buy the subsription I could careless what you do with your money. But if Mattel doesn't do DCU line then I will automatically stop wasting money on Hasbro Stuff because I will want to see them shut down too Marvel Stuff is horrendous anyway


Then Stop buying figures altogether

Dude, what the hell does Hasbro have to do with any of this? You sound so hateful and bitter in all the posts you've put on here. You're saying Hasbro failing is your new goal? haha, childish much?

Saying Hasbro's stuff is lesser quality, well I laugh at that because I buy both lines. Hasbro is as cheap, offers way more articulation, new bodies and are as good as any DC figure I own. Plus they actually take a chance with the line and put product out there while Mattel is to afraid to take a gamble and make people get subs before they commit. Don't be pissed at Hasbro for getting tons of new lines out, new bodies, new articulation and actually having them on shelves while Mattel won't do the same.

DC Collectables DC's figures put everything Mattel is offering to shame and they get most of my money, do you also want them to fail or are you just a Marvel hater? I've noticed that when Mattel is making threats to cancel a line or does cancel aline that people bring up Hasbro/Marvel for no reason. It comes off sort of jealous that the other guy is doing well. It's like losing your job and house and wishing your neighbors to lose their job and home as well. It's childish and silly and uncalled for.

You tell others it's their fault for this line failing and then you say ''why waste my money for figures I don't want'' well the same logic applies to Mattel's subs. Why should we waste our hard earned money for figures we don't want?

It's Mattel's fault they are failing with the poor figure selection, lack of new articulation, same old bodies that should be retired and price.

You say why waste your money on things you don't want? Well why should people subscribe when they don't want all the figures? The same logic applies. The newer Superboy looks god awful and you say Hasbro has bad sculpts lol. The Doomsday is nice but it's a shame I have to get the prisoner before we'll get the one we really want. They put the prisoner before the unleashed and that's just so they can make us buy both. Ras looks awful and most others think so too.

Quit being mad that other toy companies are doing well and saying ''I'm going to make them fail, that's my goal'' because that comes off very childish and silly.

It's not Hasbro's fault or fans for Mattel failing, it's Mattel's fault for not offering us what we really want. It's sad they won't take a gamble on product and throw scare tactics out to people. There is no excuse for it considering they are the world's largest toy maker. Smaller companies like DC Collectables and Neca get product out there all the time and actually take a chance of losing money because they have BALLS. That's what a business is, taking chances without knowing you'll get a return.

No one told Mattel to make all those Super Powers figures that no one hardly knew nor cared, it's not our fault those things are peg warming. They could have made so many different characters but they choose that terrible wave and that's the reason most stores around here never carried DC Unlimited.

Quit being a hater and quit blaming others for Mattel's failings. Blame Mattel.

Then again, maybe people just don't care about the DC figures that much anymore and have moved on to bigger and better things, like DC Collectables who are as cheap and MUCH better at DC figures. I mean they don't make threats to cancel lines if we don't commit with our hard earned money. They take chances at retail because they have something Mattel lacks....it's called balls.

jestermon 08-07-2013 07:34 PM

I just got back into MOTUC guess I picked a good time, there will be tons of $10 figures sold in Big Lots, it sucks that they are ending but that's what they get for charging 3 times more what ther worth.

After Big Lots sold through this stock so fast they will definately purchase a large hunk as soon as they can again of the last run of items.

Probably will sell all the things Matty says aren't even in production will pop up at BL and other outlet stores.

For instance right now they are selling a pack of Orko and Prince adam for $30 plus shipping ont here website it has been showing up at Big Lots for $10, there is no way that toy is worth the amount they charge.

Also, Hasbro may make their items availiable at retail and I am not defending Matty because they are horrible and most of my purchases have been second hand after the one I had directly from them I was out.

You must have never tried actually looking for a certain Hasbro toy at retail distribution sucks by the store, their online store doesn't sell most of there items an you are out of luck with most figures.

Ask any GiJoe or Transformers collector of course some claim they have seen everything at retail but I refuse to believe them there is no store/area that gets everything.

Riddick 08-07-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIII (Post 454104)
Why waste my money on crap I don't want? no but it would stop people who really don't want figures from having them all is fair in a Free Market system blocking Hasbro then shutting them down would be my goal


On stuff that lacks quality. Well maybe Hasbro needs to do a Subscription line so they can go belly up where they belong because with what they put out the Quality looks like a something I pulled out of a Trash can


Because not showing interest in one line shows that you could live without any line. In my eyes whats the point of putting out action figures at all from any company if you don't want one.

I find Hasbro just shoves out figures with the worst quality

Dude, you just come off so bitter. Hasbro has nothing to do with this, nothing. Quit being a hater and being pissed the other guy is doing good.


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