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DarthNexus 06-20-2014 10:22 AM

How much would you pay for a new Marvel Legends Sentinel?
 
I found one for $70 in box with the 3 3/4 wolverine…. I was wondering if it was a good deal or if I should pick it up or if anybody would want it if i did decide to get it….
Idk just wanted to see before I made a decision

DarthNexus 06-20-2014 10:23 AM

If you did want it would be willing to trade for Black series 6'' figs too

Trivial Psychic 06-20-2014 11:15 AM

Marvel Legends Sentinel? 100 bucks shipped is fair. The Marvel Universe one however? Not so much. Maybe 50 or 60? The Legends Sentinel is easily superior to the MU version in almost every way.

DarthNexus 06-20-2014 11:50 AM

ye like the one in the box with wolverine with light up eyes and talking and in box, not the BAF one

warmachine6 06-20-2014 01:02 PM

i think i only paid like £50 plus shipping, for my sentinel [BAF version]

Serious Lee 06-20-2014 02:39 PM

I have the grey MU Sentinel MOC, it's not on my BST yet, but soon. And yes, for the BAF $100 shipped is a fair rate these days, but if currnet trends on ebay are any indication, that price is going up.

kylactus 06-20-2014 03:01 PM

X Men 16 inch Marvel Masterworks Sentinel | eBay

there you go...

Iceman 06-21-2014 07:09 AM

Yeah, it depends on the version. The silver/purple one you can't give away. The comic colored one is worth more. I got mine from a local guy for $30 loose but in the box $75 or so is far. The silver/purple one $40 would be high. The baf anything under $100 is a good price.

Serious Lee 06-23-2014 12:04 PM

Has anyone dismantled their MU Sentinel for repainting? I want to try it, but a little worried I'll ruin it.

Iceman 06-26-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serious Lee (Post 538812)
Has anyone dismantled their MU Sentinel for repainting? I want to try it, but a little worried I'll ruin it.

I somewhat did with mine. I took off the head, hands, and feet. They all come off easy enough when you heat them. The soft torso piece also comes off really easily.


http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...ps32854be8.jpg



http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1d5c8c3e.jpg


http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8eaacd93.jpg

En Sabah Nerd 06-26-2014 03:03 PM

price sounds reasonable (I got mine from a Marshalls so I don't know how much they regularly go for), however I find the MU sentinel is better than the BAF. It's bulkier, more colorful, and has the light-up feature with sound, creating a more intimidating presence. The BAF is leaner, but has more sculpt and pose, and a much more drab paint job. Both sentinels are great and not everyone will agree which they prefer (which is fine), but try for cheaper I suppose, your wallet will thank you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e3INuXrN6p...el+%282%29.JPG

Serious Lee 06-26-2014 03:46 PM

@ Iceman - that is a really nice look, is the shoulder # a decal? And did you just use a hair dryer?

Iceman 06-27-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serious Lee (Post 539982)
@ Iceman - that is a really nice look, is the shoulder # a decal? And did you just use a hair dryer?

The purple/silver sentinels have the number, in purple, on their shoulder. Basically, I just painted over everything purple with black paint.

I did use a hair dryer for the head because I didn't know how the electronics worked up there. It's just an led shining up from the neck joint and reflected out the eyes. I generally just turn the water in my bathroom to hot when I am popping figures or straightening them. I used the water for the hands and feet. You probably could for the head as well but a hair dryer is safest.

ukmu 06-29-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 539968)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e3INuXrN6p...el+%282%29.JPG

take away colour (+MU) take away posability (+ML)

in the pic above...if you KNEW NOTHING of them... had ZERO preference between ML or MU...based on the side by side pics above... who would win in a fight?

I know my answer.


SIDE NOTE: Why would giant robots designed for killing need faux 6 pack abs for?

En Sabah Nerd 06-29-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukmu (Post 540870)
take away colour (+MU) take away posability (+ML)

in the pic above...if you KNEW NOTHING of them... had ZERO preference between ML or MU...based on the side by side pics above... who would win in a fight?

I know my answer.


SIDE NOTE: Why would giant robots designed for killing need faux 6 pack abs for?

If I just walked into a field and saw these two about to brawl, I'd go with the bigger and bulkier one. It looks like the bigger one could kick the leaner one's knee caps in and cripple it. In a one on one fight strength matters more than speed, so I guess the MU one would win. They need the abs to, uh, you know look human and stuff, calm people down I guess, just a 26' tall man with well toned physique. For the ladies.

trebleshot 06-30-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 540904)
In a one on one fight strength matters more than speed

Not necessarily. A quicker, more agile fighter could easily outlast a lumbering brute, given enough stamina to keep moving and wear the larger opponent down. Contrast that with the stronger one only needing to land a few blows (if that) to take down the smaller opponent, and you have the makings for an interesting fight.

Having said that, a lot also depending on the fighting style of the combatants. Precision strikes can quickly cripple any opponent - regardless of their respective strength, speed or stamina.

Personally, I'd pick the ML. It's a more recent design (and likely far more advanced) than the MU version.

As for the 8-pack abs, the designers mimicked human physiology because its fighting style was based largely on human techniques and tactics. If it were programmed to fight like a cat, it would look like a cat. ;)

En Sabah Nerd 06-30-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 541170)
Not necessarily. A quicker, more agile fighter could easily outlast a lumbering brute, given enough stamina to keep moving and wear the larger opponent down. Contrast that with the stronger one only needing to land a few blows (if that) to take down the smaller opponent, and you have the makings for an interesting fight.

Having said that, a lot also depending on the fighting style of the combatants. Precision strikes can quickly cripple any opponent - regardless of their respective strength, speed or stamina.

Personally, I'd pick the ML. It's a more recent design (and likely far more advanced) than the MU version.

As for the 8-pack abs, the designers mimicked human physiology because its fighting style was based largely on human techniques and tactics. If it were programmed to fight like a cat, it would look like a cat. ;)

I don't think the MU sentinel is based on any particular design, just a more generic looking sentinel, fair reasoning I suppose. Assuming two combatants are equally skilled and use same technique, strength and endurance overcome speed. Speed can beat strength if speed has distance (via a weapon), but when distance is sacrificed strength wins. For example: SPOILERS DON'T READ IF YOU WATCH GAME OF THRONES SPOILERS! in season 4 the smaller and faster fighter was winning while he kept his spear and distance, but as soon as he sacrifices that distance and gets close, the stronger tougher fighter crushed his head with his bare hands.

trebleshot 06-30-2014 01:36 PM

To me, the MU version evokes a more old-school design (especially when you compare it to old Sentinel toys).

And as I said, it depends on fighting techniques and how skillful those fighters are within their respective disciplines. Besides, it's not like a fight on Game of Thrones is any more or less realistic than a battle between two Marvel Sentinels.

I'd be curious to see how one of those GoT guys would do unarmed against someone with a martial arts background (like a samurai or a ninja). Where is Deadliest Warrior when you need it? :D

VashTS 06-30-2014 01:55 PM

MU sentinel

Nymesys Prime 06-30-2014 02:26 PM

Ever notice how the Sentinels have the Ironman trademark chest arcs? Makes you wonder if the comics ever explained that? Would make an excellent Avengers -Xmen crossover on how the sentinels came to be in the first place.

Serious Lee 06-30-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nymesys Prime (Post 541239)
Ever notice how the Sentinels have the Ironman trademark chest arcs? Makes you wonder if the comics ever explained that? Would make an excellent Avengers -Xmen crossover on how the sentinels came to be in the first place.


You may have just explained the cross-over movie due to hit theatres in 9 years from now.

I heard it here first!,

En Sabah Nerd 06-30-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 541230)
To me, the MU version evokes a more old-school design (especially when you compare it to old Sentinel toys).

And as I said, it depends on fighting techniques and how skillful those fighters are within their respective disciplines. Besides, it's not like a fight on Game of Thrones is any more or less realistic than a battle between two Marvel Sentinels.

I'd be curious to see how one of those GoT guys would do unarmed against someone with a martial arts background (like a samurai or a ninja). Where is Deadliest Warrior when you need it? :D

I think we technically answered this forum's initial post a while ago, who cares let's go on. Everybody has a different preferred sentinel and that's nice. You say potato I say potato, oh wait that doesn't work in text.
Off topic: I dunno, in GOT some characters are only weapon based and rely on pure strength (The Mountain), while others clearly have knowledge of unarmed combat and armed (Oberyn, Daario, etc.), and then other mix both at once like sword skill and punching cheap shots when available (The Hound, Jorah, etc.). They're all fictitious so it's hard to say, but in one particularly well done fight we see how speed vs strength works great until distance is replaced with pride *splat*.

trebleshot 07-01-2014 06:54 AM

Eh, the only reason I mentioned GoT being fictitious is it's not really a good choice for an example of your position (strength > speed). The outcomes of all the fights and battles in GoT are predetermined, like WWE matches or any other scripted media.

I could easily use the show Vikings as an example of a smaller, faster warrior being able to take down a larger, stronger opponent regardless of proximity. Again, the fights in that show are largely fictitious (even thought the show itself is partially based on real historical events).

I'm not discounting your position (I do agree with you when it comes to certain scenarios), I just don't consider the matter as cut-and-dry as you.

kylactus 07-01-2014 07:13 AM

agreed, ever heard of David and Goliath?

En Sabah Nerd 07-01-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebleshot (Post 541466)
Eh, the only reason I mentioned GoT being fictitious is it's not really a good choice for an example of your position (strength > speed). The outcomes of all the fights and battles in GoT are predetermined, like WWE matches or any other scripted media.

I could easily use the show Vikings as an example of a smaller, faster warrior being able to take down a larger, stronger opponent regardless of proximity. Again, the fights in that show are largely fictitious (even thought the show itself is partially based on real historical events).

I'm not discounting your position (I do agree with you when it comes to certain scenarios), I just don't consider the matter as cut-and-dry as you.

I am actually always of the opinion that technically anybody could beat anybody given any number of circumstances. That being said, I do kneel to physics and it's limitations (obviously only to small degrees when applying fictional worlds) so I can still make some prediction of an event, and be surprised when I'm wrong. Technically I think it possible for aunt May to take out Thanos given very unlikely circumstances, but possible.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kylactus (Post 541468)
agreed, ever heard of David and Goliath?

Don't want to start anything here, but assuming this battle ever took place it wouldn't apply to the notion. My theory of strength beating speed in one on one requires and is limited to close quarters combat (touching distance), using a sling to create distance disregards the strength of the other fighter.


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