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Tony_Bacala 08-17-2018 09:19 AM

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I know you guys have had these a bit longer than me, but I have stayed "spoiler free" until now. I just went in fresh. Without input other than an occasional social post I ran into, these were my thoughts on first handling.

Black Arbor 08-17-2018 09:27 AM

I give it 3 waves before they abandon the line, tops.

Harbinger 08-17-2018 09:29 AM

Not a fan of the unibody ninja snake eyes look.

Tony_Bacala 08-17-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 769289)
I give it 3 waves before they abandon the line, tops.

I can see that happening. Tolerance issues mixed with the arm issue here. The long arms are currently present into the foreseeable future without a hard fix. Tolerance can be addressed mid wave now if they wanted. (I think, I'm no expert).

If these things are what people keep talking about every time they pop up for the first 2 waves, sales will suffer. Someone will need to make a money decision and then poof.

If that does happen, they can hard reset without full abandon. Trot out new figs with specifically addressed issues in the promo and folks will come back. Killing supposed ongoing lines hurts the next line too. :/

I just want dope ass DC figures regularly which don't cost a car payment.

stryker12 08-17-2018 09:39 AM

My batman came with a broken hand, couldn't pop it back in. Might superglue or just get another, but really disappointed with the quality. They're better than the essentials line from a few years back, but not good enough to be charging $26 per figure.

Tony_Bacala 08-17-2018 09:40 AM

Forgot to add these in the review. Added now.

Dr Kain 08-17-2018 10:01 AM

Yeeeeeeeeah, I'm no longer going to invest myself in DC figures until someone decides to focus on a comic accurate Flash oriented line with modern standards.

Tim 08-17-2018 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 769299)
Yeeeeeeeeah, I'm no longer going to invest myself in DC figures until someone decides to focus on a comic accurate Flash oriented line with modern standards.

Sign me up for that line.

MPT 08-17-2018 10:47 AM

Also, the stiff cape. NECA has no qualms about giving their 7" Batmans multi-purpose cloth capes, so why not DC Essentials? It's like they're tone-deaf to our complaints

Dolemite 08-17-2018 11:34 AM

These guys will never catch up with the Marvel Legends line. Hasbro is killing it lately.

Dr Kain 08-17-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPT (Post 769301)
Also, the stiff cape. NECA has no qualms about giving their 7" Batmans multi-purpose cloth capes, so why not DC Essentials? It's like they're tone-deaf to our complaints

NECA's capes suck though. They're way too thin and always feel like they are going to tear. There's got to be a way to pull off more rubber capes but not have them fall off all of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 769306)
These guys will never catch up with the Marvel Legends line. Hasbro is killing it lately.

Mostly. Hasbro's paint apps are hit or miss, but their capes majorly suck ass. I can not get the capes to Gladiator, Prowler, or Magneto to stay in a position at all and their pegs constantly pop out of the holes with a single shake.

Tony_Bacala 08-17-2018 01:41 PM

I've never met a cape I liked on any figure, plastic or fabric. I don't have the answer. I am ok with this one, it stays out of the way and can be bent to fit most poses. What I don't like is when the do things like Capullo Designer Bat's cape. Flared out.

Fabric capes, pretty much no, ever. All IMHO of course.

Tony_Bacala 08-17-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 769306)
These guys will never catch up with the Marvel Legends line. Hasbro is killing it lately.

I don't need them to catch up, I just want some long term consistency. I want to look forward to building out a shelf, then a case, then maybe a wall when I'm 85 or so.

Dr Kain 08-17-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_Bacala (Post 769325)
I've never met a cape I liked on any figure, plastic or fabric. I don't have the answer. I am ok with this one, it stays out of the way and can be bent to fit most poses. What I don't like is when the do things like Capullo Designer Bat's cape. Flared out.

Fabric capes, pretty much no, ever. All IMHO of course.

FOr cloth capes, I'd say the best is the ANH Darth Vader Hasbro released last year.

Not a fan of hard plastic capes at all.

For rubbery/soft plastic capes, I think Mattel did it best when they had the capes permanently glued into the back.

MPT 08-17-2018 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 769319)
NECA's capes suck though. They're way too thin and always feel like they are going to tear. There's got to be a way to pull off more rubber capes but not have them fall off all of the time.



Mostly. Hasbro's paint apps are hit or miss, but their capes majorly suck ass. I can not get the capes to Gladiator, Prowler, or Magneto to stay in a position at all and their pegs constantly pop out of the holes with a single shake.

NECA did a great job with Bale Batman in the 7" format. The cloth cape stayed on perfectly, and you could put the figure in a gliding pose...unlike DC Essentials.

Dr Kain 08-17-2018 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPT (Post 769333)
NECA did a great job with Bale Batman in the 7" format. The cloth cape stayed on perfectly, and you could put the figure in a gliding pose...unlike DC Essentials.

That's good to hear because their Burton Batman might as well have a cape bought from a dollar store.

Jeddostotle7 08-17-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 769331)
FOr cloth capes, I'd say the best is the ANH Darth Vader Hasbro released last year.

Not a fan of hard plastic capes at all.

For rubbery/soft plastic capes, I think Mattel did it best when they had the capes permanently glued into the back.

I think the best fabric cape I've ever experienced was the cape on Mezco's DKR Batman. What an incredible cape; always draping right, really nice feel. Mezco's other capes are nice too, except for Black Adam's where they wired it half-way down the length, but not the whole way, which was just weird.

I do have to agree that the NECA Bale Batman cape is also pretty great.

Tomax 08-17-2018 05:51 PM

oh hell yeah, looks better than legends, getting that DeathStroke for sure

Tim 08-17-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomax (Post 769365)
oh hell yeah, looks better than legends, getting that DeathStroke for sure

With it being a additional $8 I’d hope it would look better then a mass produced $20 figure. Half of your posts are just negative responses to either marvel or marvel legends. Not looking for a fight. Just pointing out the obvious lol

SpasticPlastic 08-17-2018 07:22 PM

Additional $8? I thought the SRP on these was $22. I've been getting them for $21.99, but I have seen them for $24.99 on some sites.

Tomax 08-17-2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 769366)
With it being a additional $8 I’d hope it would look better then a mass produced $20 figure. Half of your posts are just negative responses to either marvel or marvel legends. Not looking for a fight. Just pointing out the obvious lol

wait what? look whos talking someone who is always bringing down DC.
News flash: Im a DC fan, i dont have to like what you like. i always March to the beat of my own drum. im not follower.

jwyss234 08-17-2018 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpasticPlastic (Post 769379)
Additional $8? I thought the SRP on these was $22. I've been getting them for $21.99, but I have seen them for $24.99 on some sites.

Previewsworld has the SRP listed as $26.00 but BBTS has them listed for $22.99. I know that an LCS near me wanted $30.

Tim 08-17-2018 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpasticPlastic (Post 769379)
Additional $8? I thought the SRP on these was $22. I've been getting them for $21.99, but I have seen them for $24.99 on some sites.

Yeah these at my comic shops are $28. And Dc Collectibles/previews has them listed for over $22 as well. I don’t know if that’s everyone’s is $28 or my stores are just screwing me over haha. But if you’re getting them for $22 that’s awesome and a steal! I see amazon has them for $22 so I’m definitely ordering that flash.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomax (Post 769382)
wait what? look whos talking someone who is always bringing down DC.
News flash: Im a DC fan, i dont have to like what you like. i always March to the beat of my own drum. im not follower.

Ok cool noted. Not a follower got it.

SpasticPlastic 08-17-2018 09:43 PM

Wow. The prices are all over the place. I love DCC, but I'll be the first to admit that if you don't HAVE to have them right now (which I did and do), the prices will be much lower in a short time on the secondary (at least if theses follow the path of all of their last few years worth of releases).

digger318 08-18-2018 12:36 AM

These figures look really bad, even for the retail price.

The arms do look a little long, but i don't think the issue is only with the arms, the problem is the hip to leg area. The gap between the legs and the hips are far too big, making the hips look smaller than it should. That or it looks like the legs are pulled outwards.

I cannot stand seeing pegs in the joints. Its a cost thing ok, but at least smooth out the pegs so they stay flay with the rest of the arms, ugh.

The cutting of the upper legs, why is it that it seems only japanese or asian toy companies have figured out that putting a large cut on the legs looks really bad, especially when you will have big chunks showing as soon as u move the legs out of it's original pose.

that stupid tummy joint, they are and always will be ugly.
Look batman has a belt, so does many other characters, put a ball joint in there! they you will have rotation and up and down movement.

That single piece hard cape... right, stick a joint in there or use fabric.

and finally that size problem. OMG WHY CAN'T USA toy lines agree on a scale! Again, in japan, bandai and figma and revoltech stick to a similar standard scale. Even when you have model kit figures, they are at most half a head taller, meaning you can still display them together without it looking out of place.

hasbro is moving forward, catching up with neca, bandai, figmas etc, and these are just frustrating.


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