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Dolemite 01-22-2020 06:08 PM

NECA Ultimate Lost Tribe Predators
 
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NECA posted the following photo on Facebook today, obviously teasing an upcoming Ultimate Battle Armor Lost Predator. I've been waiting for this one for a long time, as the original figure is one of the best Predator designs NECA's ever released but was really held back by the limited articulation, especially in the elbows. I knew this announcement was coming based on that recent Comic-Con exclusive Yellow Lantern Predator that basically used the same body.

BTW, the hips on my original figure are mega-loose and I hope this is something that's corrected with the new figure.
http://www.toyark.com/attachments/57...9741329009.jpg

Black Arbor 01-22-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 822586)
NECA posted the following photo on Facebook today, obviously teasing an upcoming Ultimate Battle Armor Lost Predator. I've been waiting for this one for a long time, as the original figure is one of the best Predator designs NECA's ever released but was really held back by the limited articulation, especially in the elbows. I knew this announcement was coming based on that recent Comic-Con exclusive Yellow Lantern Predator that basically used the same body.

BTW, the hips on my original figure are mega-loose and I hope this is something that's corrected with the new figure.
http://www.toyark.com/attachments/57...9741329009.jpg

This was the "Borg" Predator right? Never got the OG so this'd be a great upgrade!

En Sabah Nerd 01-22-2020 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor (Post 822587)
This was the "Borg" Predator right? Never got the OG so this'd be a great upgrade!

Yes. In Predator 2 one of the members of the lost tribe is wearing this armor that's notably more "technological" in appearance than the others and so NECA's original Battle Armored Lost was their take on what his complete armor might look like.

Harbinger 01-22-2020 06:26 PM

Finally! Now I don’t have to waste money on the old one. Hopefully this one will come with an unmasked head.

snake5289 01-22-2020 07:04 PM

Awesome even though I'd prefer the less armored movie version.

Comedian 01-22-2020 07:05 PM

Hope they do them all . My lost tribe collection is mostly glue now. Not one is with out issue.

Dolemite 01-22-2020 09:27 PM

Actually, if you look closely, it appears that the visor is now an LED light! Woah!

While a cool upgrade, I hope there's an alternate head without the LED. I liked the honeycomb pattern on the original visor as well.

RamenRider 01-22-2020 10:06 PM

Oh nice, the design of this one is great. The futuristic looking armor with the awesome sword accessory made it stand out to me, and LED eyes are a great new addition for an Ultimate release.

Hopefully this one will be on display at NY Toy Fair.

Ventus 01-23-2020 11:58 AM

Only Teasing, Teasing, no Progress at all.

What Happened with Ultimate Wolf Predator????
Is he still happening?

They Teased him 2018, and nothing happened.

That Production Speed from Tease to actual Release
is....inacceptable.

Maybe we will wait another 2 Years for
this Ultimate Lost to be released.

RamenRider 01-23-2020 12:18 PM

So the Lost Predator is a background character from Predator 2 but NECA designed the mask, parts of his armor and the accessories themselves, right?

Kind of funny how this one comes around the same year their first fully self-designed Predator design is being released as well.

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Originally Posted by Ventus (Post 822687)
Only Teasing, Teasing, no Progress at all.

What Happened with Ultimate Wolf Predator????
Is he still happening?

They Teased him 2018, and nothing happened.

That Production Speed from Tease to actual Release
is....inacceptable.

Maybe we will wait another 2 Years for
this Ultimate Lost to be released.

https://i.imgur.com/5gtocnP.jpg

Is kind of ridiculous how long this takes. My guess is they want to make more AvP2 releases like the Predalien etc. so they need dedicated space in their release window for that. The last time it was all about the new movie, now the Predator 2 and Predators anniversaries are coming up so those might take center stage for now.

But I don’t think Lost will face similar issues, I could see a full reveal at toy fair and a direct solicitation afterwards happening.

En Sabah Nerd 01-23-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 822689)
So the Lost Predator is a background character from Predator 2 but NECA designed the mask, parts of his armor and the accessories themselves, right?

Kind of funny how this one comes around the same year their first fully self-designed Predator design is being released as well.

Yup. NECA took the character as seen in the movie and gave him a belt, backpack with plasma caster, mask, and sword that visually matched the existing chest armor.


I will echo the disappointment regarding Wolf's severe delay, AVPR is a mess but I like Wolf and would definitely get his ultimate figure.

Bo Ttef 01-23-2020 12:41 PM

Neca has been teasing Wolf and the PredAlien for years now... i don't know what it is in their business/production model that takes so dang long but it's pretty irritating... I'm sure dealing with the studio- then the changing studio license- has slowed things down a bit, but it's been way too long already.

Straker 01-23-2020 04:58 PM

My body is ready! I've been waiting for an ultimate release. I'm hoping they have the ability to make his parts swappable to how he looked in the film as well as their fully armored version.

I will also express my disappointment on how long it's taking for Wolf but this new Battle Armor figure certainly makes me very happy.

Trivial Psychic 01-23-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo Ttef (Post 822697)
Neca has been teasing Wolf and the PredAlien for years now... i don't know what it is in their business/production model that takes so dang long but it's pretty irritating... I'm sure dealing with the studio- then the changing studio license- has slowed things down a bit, but it's been way too long already.

Remember how long it took for Neca to get those AVP Arcade figs out? And those were simple repaints (outside the Alien figures, which had some slight tooling)

A year to 2 year wait is par for the course when it comes to the Yautjas. Don't even get me started on the Kenner Xenos... 🥴

Thankfully I still have my Monsterarts Wolf, which while a bit on the buff side, fits right into my largely 6 inch collection and scratches the itch just right.

Krunomo 01-23-2020 07:05 PM

Some of y'all are sounding a little entitled. NECA does not have to give us anything. For the most part figures are released within 12 months of an initial tease. Just look at all the other stuff they teased and released last year i.e. Pinhead. Wolf was teased a while back but since then they've had a bunch of factory related problems which have held up their Alien and Predator lines. Combine that with anniversaries and new movies and you have the perfect storm for delays.

At one point we were getting 10+ Predators and 10+ Aliens per year then figures started getting delayed. The Capcom AVP figures were meant to drop in 2018 but got pushed back to 2019. The figures from The Predator and Covenant were given priority over other figures to better align with releases. The Alien 40th collection should have dropped in 2019 but instead got pushed back to 2020 and so on.

I imagine this year they're intending to give us a Predator 2 30th anniversary lineup (that's 11 predators). That's going to fill the entire years worth of Predators. While these are going to be rehashed predators they are likely going to feature a bunch of articulation improvements i.e. double jointed elbows secondary heads etc. This is also good for folks that missed out on the first run. I for one am keen to get a replacement Shaman. Heck if we're lucky they may even give us a Harrigan. Then it also looks like they may do Predator Hunting grounds figures ...

Add to that the Alien 40th lineup and it looks like the Alien/s quota is also filled. The alien lineup so far includes four figures two of which (Brett and Parker) are entirely new releases. Here's hoping they pull of a miracle and give us Ash and/or Dallas, Lambert and Kane with regular costumes.

AVP:R crosses both franchises so is likely being pushed into a year with nothing else going on. That is assuming they ignore the Aliens 30th anniversary which would be a good opportunity to give us Drake. The AVP:R lineup is otherwise a small lineup so can be knocked out in a single wave.

Just remember of all companies to tackle these franchises (regardless of scale) NECA has by far gone the furthest. Sure alot of it is repaints but for the most part there isn't all that much variance to begin with (That and it's no worse than Hasbro using that same old bucky cap body for every other figure). As someone who has mostly collected these lines i really can't wait for more and replacing my dated figures is certainly going to be worth that wait.

Dolemite 01-23-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 822689)
So the Lost Predator is a background character from Predator 2 but NECA designed the mask, parts of his armor and the accessories themselves, right?

For the full story on the creation of the Battle Armor Lost Predator, just check out this link. It has an interview with the NECA designer/sculptor who worked on the figure and his approach on expanding on the designs we (briefly) saw in Predator 2. He even created a backstory for the character as well, which is pretty cool (short version: he's tech-obsessed and only hunts mechanical lifeforms). I really think the guy really knocked it out of the park with his work.

Honestly, I never noticed the Lost/Borg Predator at the end of Predator 2...he kinda got lost in the crowd, and it didn't help that the ship was dark and misty. Now that I'm aware that he's there, I can pick him out in that scene, but he's still a blink-and-you'll-miss-him kinda character.

Dolemite 01-23-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Krunomo (Post 822747)
Some of y'all are sounding a little entitled. NECA does not have to give us anything.

Yes, how dare we, the customers, want things. And why would NECA give fans what they want, anyway? They get free money from their money trees and can do anything they want without having to worry about pesky things like sales.

Krunomo 01-23-2020 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 822762)
Yes, how dare we, the customers, want things. And why would NECA give fans what they want, anyway? They get free money from their money trees and can do anything they want without having to worry about pesky things like sales.

Wanting something ≠ being entitled

You're deliberately bending my sentiment. There's a difference between wanting something and being entitled i.e. "That Production Speed from Tease to actual Release is....unacceptable." That is an example of being entitled.

There's plenty of figures we all want but at the end of the day we will get what NECA thinks is going to sell. I'm sure they pay attention to comments/feedback hence why we got a new Pinhead. I don't doubt they'll give us a Wolf but he's being held off for a reason.

I'd like a battle damaged Carl. The movie bombed so i along with everyone else who wants one won't get one. They've confirmed this via Twitter. I'd also like Harrigan but in reality an elderly man is likely going to be a shelf warmer. Demanding that NECA make one just to suit my desires is being entitled. See the difference?

Clearly they make their money with repaints and variants but everyone also bitches about that too :rolleyes:

En Sabah Nerd 01-24-2020 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Krunomo (Post 822766)
I'd like a battle damaged Carl. The movie bombed so i along with everyone else who wants one won't get one. They've confirmed this via Twitter.

To be clear, you're talking about Terminator Dark Fate's Carl?

RamenRider 01-24-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 822694)
Yup. NECA took the character as seen in the movie and gave him a belt, backpack with plasma caster, mask, and sword that visually matched the existing chest armor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 822761)
For the full story on the creation of the Battle Armor Lost Predator, just check out this link. It has an interview with the NECA designer/sculptor who worked on the figure and his approach on expanding on the designs we (briefly) saw in Predator 2. He even created a backstory for the character as well, which is pretty cool (short version: he's tech-obsessed and only hunts mechanical lifeforms). I really think the guy really knocked it out of the park with his work.

Very interesting. Yeah, I think I want this one. The original was already great looking so an update with LED-eyes sounds sweet.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 822761)
Honestly, I never noticed the Lost/Borg Predator at the end of Predator 2...he kinda got lost in the crowd, and it didn't help that the ship was dark and misty. Now that I'm aware that he's there, I can pick him out in that scene, but he's still a blink-and-you'll-miss-him kinda character.

Turns out he was actually the director of the movie all along ;)

https://i.imgur.com/VMA7R9n.jpg

Dolemite 01-24-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Krunomo (Post 822766)
Wanting something ≠ being entitled

Exactly! I couldn't agree more!

Oh wait, I don't think you understand that what you typed up above actually means "wanting something does not equal being entitled." :)

But if you DID mean that, then I agree, because nowhere in this thread is anyone demanding anything of NECA. They're just universally expressing disappointment and frustration that something they want has been delayed, that's all.

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You're deliberately bending my sentiment.
Nah. If anything, you're the one who's deliberately bending the sentiments of the other people in the thread. Again, find me one quote where anyone is making anything resembling a "demand." You won't find one.

Complaining about an announced product that's been delayed several years without much of an explanation ≠ entitlement.

P.S. Why am I debating this with you? I didn't even complain about the Wolf delays so your post wasn't directed at me! Not that the delays don't annoy me...

Dolemite 01-24-2020 09:47 AM

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Turns out he was actually the director of the movie all along ;)

https://i.imgur.com/VMA7R9n.jpg

No wonder the behaviors of the Predators seemed so authentic! They had an expert directing!

Aaaannnd, for MORE exciting Lost Predator trivia, Stan Winston apparently cannibalized a previous creation of his - the cyborg protagonist from the low-budget 1986 flick The Vindicator - for the armor pieces used on the Lost Predator. If you look at the chest and gauntlets, it's blatantly obvious.
http://www.toyark.com/attachment.php...1&d=1579884772

RamenRider 01-24-2020 10:00 AM

Good thing they showed the mask first then - if it was the torso armor we'd speculate about an Ultimate Vindicator now :D

Quite fascinating how some things work out. From a background character who reused parts from another movie to a fan-favorite action figure design. I said it once but I say it again: It's quite fitting that this one comes along (hopefully) the same year as Alpha.

Dolemite 01-24-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ramenrider (Post 822801)
good thing they showed the mask first then - if it was the torso armor we'd speculate about an ultimate vindicator now :d

lol! :)

Harbinger 01-24-2020 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 822798)
No wonder the behaviors of the Predators seemed so authentic! They had an expert directing!

Aaaannnd, for MORE exciting Lost Predator trivia, Stan Winston apparently cannibalized a previous creation of his - the cyborg protagonist from the low-budget 1986 flick The Vindicator - for the armor pieces used on the Lost Predator. If you look at the chest and gauntlets, it's blatantly obvious.
http://www.toyark.com/attachments/57...thxuaakobm.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamenRider (Post 822801)
Good thing they showed the mask first then - if it was the torso armor we'd speculate about an Ultimate Vindicator now :D

Quite fascinating how some things work out. From a background character who reused parts from another movie to a fan-favorite action figure design. I said it once but I say it again: It's quite fitting that this one comes along (hopefully) the same year as Alpha.

Damnit.....now I feel entitled to demand a Vindicator. ;)


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