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Joe Moore 06-14-2021 12:24 PM

SW Gaming Greats Zaalbar Black Series
 
Star Wars The Black Series Gaming Greats - Zaalbar 6-Inch Figure by Hasbro

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En Sabah Nerd 06-14-2021 12:35 PM

Oh I Hope this means we're getting more KotOR characters. Malak, Bastila, HK-47, and so on. Just talking about Zaalbar though, I think it's reasonably safe to say that the face will come out looking better on final delivery but that vibro-sword is oversized. It looks big even for him so it's probably huge compared to a regular sized figure.

Edit: just did some quick looking around and saw that the super-sized sword is taken from his appearance in the Galaxy of Heroes game.

hasbroherofan 06-14-2021 12:53 PM

Hopefully this means more KOTOR figs.

Harbinger 06-14-2021 01:14 PM

Hopefully we get a male and female revan deluxe set with multiple heads for each and multiple saber colors.

IzzyTipsy 06-14-2021 01:21 PM

Well, this was the easiest retool ever

Jester 06-14-2021 02:42 PM

Hopefully this means a Mandalorian Crusader is in the works. :)

dukefett 06-14-2021 06:41 PM

This looks like he's just molded plastic, does he have any paint on him at all besides his face?

Nayt Navare 06-14-2021 06:53 PM

Out of all the characters from KOTOR you could have done... and you chose Zaalbar. Yeah, because that will put butts in seats.

En Sabah Nerd 06-14-2021 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayt Navare (Post 872447)
Out of all the characters from KOTOR you could have done... and you chose Zaalbar. Yeah, because that will put butts in seats.

It's not entirely surprising, the gaming greats subline has largely just been repaints with few (if any) new pieces per figure. Any of the more popular choices would require a bit more effort whereas Zaalbar is just a recolor of Chewie with a different bandolier and one new weapon.

Nayt Navare 06-14-2021 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 872449)
It's not entirely surprising, the gaming greats subline has largely just been repaints with few (if any) new pieces per figure. Any of the more popular choices would require a bit more effort whereas Zaalbar is just a recolor of Chewie with a different bandolier and one new weapon.

Oh, you're not wrong. But I am reminded of Darkstalkers and the 'release port/stale bread' argument.

Namely, Capcom has a series that had many fans begging for new content, new games. In response to this, Capcom re-released a port that had already been released maybe a dozen times. Fans bought it, but not enough. Next time talk came of a new game, Capcom replied 'lookit these numbers, not enough interest.'

Which began the stale bread metaphor. If people say they're hungry, but then they get offered bread; this bread is stale and moldy. When the bread is denied, the person replies 'guess you weren't hungry.'

'Can we get Bastila? Malgus? HK? Nihlus? Mission?'
'You can have Zaalbar.'
'... no, thanks.'
'Guess you don't want KOTOR/TOR products.'

En Sabah Nerd 06-15-2021 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayt Navare (Post 872463)
'Can we get Bastila? Malgus? HK? Nihlus? Mission?'
'You can have Zaalbar.'
'... no, thanks.'
'Guess you don't want KOTOR/TOR products.'

Technically we did get Nihilus last year as a 'Gaming Great' and it was ridiculously phoned-in, just Darth Maul with a different head, skirt-piece, and a cape. They took one of the tallest, sleekest sith and made it out of the shortest one they had, it's more like Maul is wearing a good Nihilus costume. I share your expressed concern though that picking a less beloved character early (like Zaalbar) can prematurely end a sub-theme.

0reser0 06-15-2021 02:12 AM

Sword is too big plus it's going to be a missed opportunity for Hasbro to omit Mission Vao, you know, Zaalbar's trusted partner in the game?

IzzyTipsy 06-15-2021 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 872464)
Technically we did get Nihilus last year as a 'Gaming Great' and it was ridiculously phoned-in, just Darth Maul with a different head, skirt-piece, and a cape. They took one of the tallest, sleekest sith and made it out of the shortest one they had, it's more like Maul is wearing a good Nihilus costume. I share your expressed concern though that picking a less beloved character early (like Zaalbar) can prematurely end a sub-theme.

To be fair, it was still pretty accurate to the 3.75 Nihilus. He wasn't that tall, either.

Nayt Navare 06-15-2021 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd (Post 872464)
Technically we did get Nihilus last year as a 'Gaming Great' and it was ridiculously phoned-in, just Darth Maul with a different head, skirt-piece, and a cape. They took one of the tallest, sleekest sith and made it out of the shortest one they had, it's more like Maul is wearing a good Nihilus costume. I share your expressed concern though that picking a less beloved character early (like Zaalbar) can prematurely end a sub-theme.

Oh. Legit missed that! Did not know they released him.

En Sabah Nerd 06-15-2021 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IzzyTipsy (Post 872472)
To be fair, it was still pretty accurate to the 3.75 Nihilus. He wasn't that tall, either.

We shouldn't be using another inaccurate toy as a basis for what's supposed to be a more detail-oriented line, In KOTOR 2 Nihilus is at least a full head taller than the player character.

Jester 06-15-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayt Navare (Post 872463)
Oh, you're not wrong. But I am reminded of Darkstalkers and the 'release port/stale bread' argument.

Namely, Capcom has a series that had many fans begging for new content, new games. In response to this, Capcom re-released a port that had already been released maybe a dozen times. Fans bought it, but not enough. Next time talk came of a new game, Capcom replied 'lookit these numbers, not enough interest.'

Which began the stale bread metaphor. If people say they're hungry, but then they get offered bread; this bread is stale and moldy. When the bread is denied, the person replies 'guess you weren't hungry.'

'Can we get Bastila? Malgus? HK? Nihlus? Mission?'
'You can have Zaalbar.'
'... no, thanks.'
'Guess you don't want KOTOR/TOR products.'

Why wouldn't you buy Zaalbar, though? If you were in any way interested in KOTOR toys? He's no Canderous Ordo or HK47, granted, but he was still a party member that you could recruit, and if he sells well, that should put us one step closer to his somewhat more popular partner-in-crime, Mission Vao.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0reser0 (Post 872465)
Sword is too big...

It's accurate to his appearance in the "Galaxy of Heroes" game.

Nayt Navare 06-15-2021 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 872492)
Why wouldn't you buy Zaalbar, though? If you were in any way interested in KOTOR toys? He's no Canderous Ordo or HK47, granted, but he was still a party member that you could recruit, and if he sells well, that should put us one step closer to his somewhat more popular partner-in-crime, Mission Vao.

It's accurate to his appearance in the "Galaxy of Heroes" game.

Same reason I don't drop $$$ on Duke for my Classifieds collection; I'm not going to pay extra for a character I don't want in a figure I'll never see at retail.

ShabbyBlue 06-15-2021 11:09 AM

So I thought this was supposed to go up for preorder at 1pm EST today (over an hour ago) but it's still not listed.

edit: nevermind, it's up now. nearly 90 min after it was supposed to be listed.

Jester 06-15-2021 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nayt Navare (Post 872499)
Same reason I don't drop $$$ on Duke for my Classifieds collection; I'm not going to pay extra for a character I don't want in a figure I'll never see at retail.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...88918_2774.jpg

toymaru 06-15-2021 03:40 PM

Didn’t even bother to paint his iconic eye shadow, face proportions are off, Zaalbar is not a lighter coloured Chewie! Nihilus is not half Maul! What’s next? A blue Hera passing off as Mission? This sub line just oozes uninspired laziness. Star Wars has so many unique characters they deserve unique sculpts not these uncalled for recolours being passed of as different characters. I’m staying away from this line.

Nayt Navare 06-15-2021 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 872506)
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...88918_2774.jpg

I don't care about Zaalbar, and SW Black figures don't get stocked on shelves here, and I don't care to pay scalper prices for a character that would be a completionist addition, at best.


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