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SoundWave88 06-12-2011 09:17 PM

Issues with 2011 Cyclops
 
As much as I love the articulation and Jim Lee based design, he's way too big. Same size as Warpath, who's like 7'! Anyone else feel the same?

Tiberius 06-12-2011 09:23 PM

THANK YOU. I am glad I am not the only one who is picky about scale, PHEW! Now I know to skip on Cyclops, as much as I love that style/character. I'll stick with the XMO one in his modern costume. To me when it comes to scale. Bucky Cap from the gigantic battles mold actually works for that character [he is only 5'9] and the best MU figure is Constrictor. He is a hair taller, which works, because the character is 5'11.

Do you have a MU Cable? Is he bigger/smaller/same size as Warpath?

Jason Abbadon 06-12-2011 09:35 PM

Constrictor looks great next to his old partner, Sabertooth (though I'd much prefer a slender Sabertooth from back then, before they started hulking him out).

behindthemask 06-12-2011 09:38 PM

Scale is important when viewed by comparrison, but as a stand alone figure, if it's an accurate representation of the comic portrayal, then I say that's fine with me, as much as we'd LOVE for Hasbro's design team to keep paint aps, unique molds, articulation and scale, they do to some extent but they don't always think in comparrison purposes, just does this figure represent a decent likeness to the original artwork and will it be something worth buying, personally Scale is important, in terms of visual likeness.. I love seeing my giant BAF sentinel tower over my XMO deadpool, but I'm not gonna nit pick if he's a 1/4'' taller then he should be. I deal with it or mod it to my likeness.

DogFashionDisco 06-12-2011 09:42 PM

I won't quibble about his height, because he is a solid mold and anyone is lucky to find one, especially in the wild. Worst case scenario, at least keep the head mold.... but I'd personally keep him the way he is.

Tiberius 06-12-2011 09:44 PM

The figure that bothers me the most, down to my core, but I suck it up because he is one of the coolest characters [to me anyways] is Sentry. It is easy enough to fix his shit lips, but the fact he is as tall as Warpath bothers me...a lot. I think the Winter Soldier body mold would of been perfect imo. Sentry is only 6 feet and isn't built like a tank, just hits like one lol

Ragnar 06-13-2011 05:24 AM

I would have to agree about the scale issues, and I do have the cyclops. I could not get him to stand straight up, so his knees are bent a little. this reduced the issue somewhat.

My biggest problem with scale is juggernaut. The physical attributes on marvels site gives his height at 9' 5", but scale wise he's about two feet short of that.

As a side note I always use the thing as my median as his height is supposed to be 6' even.

SoundWave88 06-13-2011 05:59 AM

I don't have Cable, but he looks about as big as Apocalypse. I also agree with Juggernaut and Hulk being too short! It seems like Hasbro can't decide on 3 3/4" or 4". I'm glad they fixed the issue with Wolverine, but what's next, Warpath sized Spider-Man??

I use XMO for Wolverine, Deadpool, Iceman and Cyclops. While posing 1 figure is not much of an issue, how you gonna pose ONLY one X-Man or Avenger??

On the other hand, I'm sure it beats having every figure the same size.

Optimus Vader 06-13-2011 06:59 AM

Cyclops never stood out as being too tall to me, but he could be taller than I remember. Cable is definitely tall, but he's such an awesome figure (JL Cyclops too) that I guess I've over-looked it. Maybe they're a little taller because they're newer molds with added articulation.

Since both of those figures are so articulated it allows me to pose them in a much more "comic looking" pose (buckling knees, squatting, wide stance, etc), so they're not standing straight up most of the time anyway.

Prem1x 06-13-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Optimus Vader (Post 127999)
Maybe they're a little taller because they're newer molds with added articulation.

I think this might be why the Cyclops is taller than Guardian/old-Cyclops body and Cable is slightly taller than Wrecking Crew/Gladiator body. They might of needed the slight bump in scale to add in the articulation.

I think he's fine and you guys are way too picky (but I think that's normal for comic fans). He's only a tad taller. COOL TOY REVIEW: Marvel Universe Photo Archive - Cyclops (Blue Team)

omega145 06-13-2011 07:57 AM

IMO, people making big deals out of 3.75" figures being to scale is a little much when at that size, its almost impossible to keep them all to scale. Cyclops is a great figure and I have no issues with him what so ever.

Redlantern161 06-13-2011 09:42 AM

Well I'm not too nitpicky about scale either unless it looks wayy off. That's why I love the MU wolverines & the Cyke & Cable figures being of a certain scale isn't a big deal to me I remember some artists drawing cable to be twice the height of his dad & Hope which made no sense since he's mostly just a big guy that might be a head or two taller than most people in the MU & that's it.

I also find it weird how short the marvel characters are since most of them are 5" something & Ares is just 6 feet & that means I tower over him by 5 inches so it's interesting to me since I'm only shorter than some human or mutant characters that look human.

AndyCR75 06-13-2011 09:55 AM

Guys come on...we all know when it comes to the 3.75 line, you can throw scale right out the window. Hulk, Colossus, Destroyer, the list goes on.

behindthemask 06-13-2011 10:24 AM

I agree.. for a true scale purpose u may have to mix in Marve Legends figures, Marvel Showdown, Marve Universe, Marvel Showdown, Wolverine Origins, and IM figures, a Ml sasquatch fits perfect in scale with the little guys, same with most baf's.

Symbiote 06-13-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyCR75 (Post 128025)
Guys come on...we all know when it comes to the 3.75 line, you can throw scale right out the window. Hulk, Colossus, Destroyer, the list goes on.

True that. I've picked up the baf apocalypse, onslaught, and sentinel. I remember these guys being big from the marvel vs capcom boss battles (not sentinel). The baf modok goes well with the aim solders too from pics I've seen.

MasterSock 06-13-2011 05:45 PM

I would love if they released a MvC2 Sentinel that shit would be B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

SoundWave88 06-13-2011 05:57 PM

Hmm, it seems some people are making more out of it than what was my intention. I know that these are not perfect scale, and I did not mean to infer "whine, whine, whine, these are not to scale". Now, I did have a problem with Wolverine being tall, when IMO I think the XMO version was spot on, but everyone seems to hate on that figure. Having recently purchased Warpath and Cyclops, they both "tower" over all the other figures. All lined up and posing, it does show, Cyke is huge!

Does that mean I hate him, not at all. But I don't see ankle joints making him that much taller, his body is a bigger mold. Does that mean they need to go back and re-do them all, my wallet says NO, hehe. But if this new mold is going to be the new current "go to" mold, we'll see how things look down the line. And I do like things to have some sort of scale. I would really hate if they made a 3.75" Sentinel, lol, or a Franklin Richards for that matter.

MasterSock 06-13-2011 06:02 PM

Sorry i didn't specify what i meant i want a "12 to "19 Sentinel Shit man a 3.75 Sentinel would have to be taller then Apocalypse.

Redlantern161 06-13-2011 07:30 PM

It shouldn't be too big of a deal since the figures still honor the fact that they are of a certain scale in comparison to other characters. The only time it can be terrible is if Apocalypse is the size of the tiny ant man that accompanies yellowjacket lol

Colder Soldier 06-19-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundWave88 (Post 127971)
As much as I love the articulation and Jim Lee based design, he's way too big. Same size as Warpath, who's like 7'! Anyone else feel the same?

Feel the exact same way. Even his suspender seems too short in some poses. It makes his belt ride up real high.

Any good customizer could easily make a better version with his existing parts I think. Just paint a shorter body blue/yellow, and transfer the head, hands, and straps over.

Jason Abbadon 06-19-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterSock (Post 128102)
Sorry i didn't specify what i meant i want a "12 to "19 Sentinel Shit man a 3.75 Sentinel would have to be taller then Apocalypse.

That varies as to the model Sentinel- some are only 20' tall while the first generation (the ones the Avengers defeated and Wolverine later stole to fight the hand) are almost 50' tall!

I dont think Sentinel size is a big deal- but Cyclops is too big to look right with other X-Men.

Anyone try swapping the head and gear onto the Comic Pack Cyclops body?

As to mixing Legends with MU- some stuff works perfectly- Modok's BAF is perfect MU scale- and looks awersome with the AIM soldiers and the Marvel Select Watcher rocks like no other figure has ever rocked before or since.
Looks awesome with Galactus too!

iLegends73 06-24-2011 01:14 AM

i think the size is on point. he's suppose to be kinda tall comparied to some other characters. personally thats my fav MU ever, i've got a loose 1 for display and an inbox one

Jason Abbadon 06-24-2011 01:50 AM

He's also supposed to be a bit on the thin side, like his brother- which is why Logan calls him "Slim", but his figures are usually built like linebackers!

Redlantern161 06-24-2011 12:23 PM

yeah true

Colder Soldier 06-24-2011 07:47 PM

Slim has been Scott Summers' nickname for a long time.

And he's 5'10. The default height for most Marvel characters according to the inaugural set of Marvel Trading cards in 1990. I also think those cards stated he was 195lbs (the default weight). 5'10, 195lbs is sort of contradictary to "slim".


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