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-   -   2012's Wolverine speculation (https://www.toyark.com/forums/2012s-wolverine-speculation-72791/)

Nexodusrex 10-26-2011 09:57 AM

2012's Wolverine speculation
 
every year, Hasbro sticks Wolverine into one of its waves and we either love it or hate it. year 1 we had X-Force Wolvie, which was loved since it was the first wolverine figure in the series. Year 2 we had Team X Wolverine and Jim Lee Uniform Wolverine which were mostly seen with anger. Year 3 we have first appearance and the oh so epic Astonishing Wolverine

Next year we know what Spidey and Thor we are getting. theres still a chance Ironman could get another main wave release, but this is about Wolverine.

So which Wolverine do you think we'll get next year? lol. I'm hoping for Bone Claw Savage Wolverine from Onslaught. atleast it would be different. bone claws and bandana mask. could even do a head swap to get early post fatal attractions. sound off!

bmorr 10-26-2011 10:02 AM

how about his really modern costume. i.e his current one, with the x symbol by his left shoulder. or maybe so slightly obscure with his house of m garb. also we dont have an ultimate xmen costume yet so theres that.

Nexodusrex 10-26-2011 10:09 AM

what if they did the leather age Wolverine? Infact his jacket could be imitation and removable so suddenly you have the leather age x-men jacket. still used on ocation

CLASSIFIED 10-26-2011 10:21 AM

Shirtless Wolverine with life like hair SDCC exclusive.

Optimus Vader 10-26-2011 10:26 AM

Unless they create a new mold, I'm probably set. I'm still not sure what's so great about Astonishing Wolvie, to be honest. I guess that's just people's favorite Wolvie outfit because it's just a repaint.

LXL_Guy 10-26-2011 10:32 AM

Wait...didn't we already have a thread like this?!

omega145 10-26-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXL_Guy (Post 188724)
Wait...didn't we already have a thread like this?!

There was a thread on 2012 speculation but not Wolverine speculation. Next there will be 2012 speculation for Magneto, Thor and Captain Britain.
Word up.

NerfTW 10-26-2011 10:44 AM

There's Age of Apocalypse, the leather jacket uniform, Ultimate Wolverine's multiple costumes, devolved bone claw wolverine, bone claw wolverine, maskless wolverine, Death, the brown leather jacket wolvie, and of course, carded versions of his tiger stripe and brown costumes. (It's been 3 years since they came out)

Exodus 10-26-2011 10:45 AM

Apocalypse Wolverine in the Uncanny X-Force comic.

Prem1x 10-26-2011 10:52 AM

What I like is when they fake out merchants by labeling other characters as A-listers, like they did with "Dark Spider-Man" and "Dark Wolverine" 2-pack. They should do an Albert like that and another Daken with a mohawk.

CLASSIFIED 10-26-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXL_Guy (Post 188724)
Wait...didn't we already have a thread like this?!

That was about the sequel to X Men Origins: Wolverine specifically, this is about Wolverine figures in general.

NerfTW 10-26-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prem1x (Post 188745)
What I like is when they fake out merchants by labeling other characters as A-listers, like they did with "Dark Spider-Man" and "Dark Wolverine" 2-pack. They should do an Albert like that and another Daken with a mohawk.

They're not "faking out" the merchants. For starters, those are the names of the characters when they were on that team. They don't need to "fake out" anybody. It's not like Toys R Us is sitting at Hasbro headquarters saying "No, you can't make this figure, we only want Spider-man". And it's not like they buy the cases based on who's in them. They buy the cases because other cases have sold out.

LapuLapu 10-26-2011 01:20 PM

Id like to see Old man Logan and Wolverine as Death , theres also Medieval Wolverine where he was kinda like Braveheart and Bone claw berserker wolverine.

iLegends73 10-26-2011 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LapuLapu (Post 188836)
Id like to see Old man Logan and Wolverine as Death , theres also Medieval Wolverine where he was kinda like Braveheart and Bone claw berserker wolverine.

im with u. old man logan is a must make figure. that comic run was to epic not to make 1 from it

Reaver Strike 10-26-2011 01:37 PM

Maybe a version where you can see that he has a healing factor. It could sort of look like some of the Terminator figures out there. Show some flesh and adamantium.

Snowflakian 10-26-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omega145 (Post 188732)
There was a thread on 2012 speculation but not Wolverine speculation. Next there will be 2012 speculation for Magneto, Thor and Captain Britain.
Word up.

There was a thread all about wolverine's next movie toyline with speculation already.

And like I said there, I'll say it again here:

They need to do more varied wolverines that are obscure to cover this time.
Stuff like:

Albert and Elsie Dee
Old Man Logan
Apocalypse Wolverine
Horseman Death Wolverine
AoA Wolverine
Ultimate Wolverine
Bone Claw Bandana Onslaught Wolverine

And then balance it with more nods from the comic side characters like:
Academy X X-23 (Preferably as a comic pack with Messiah Complex Deathstrike)
Messiah Complex Lady Deathstrike (Preferably as a comic pack with New X-Men/Academy X X-23)
Cyber
Modern Daken
Romulus
Astonishing Emma Frost to parallel the first movie's Astonishing Cyclops release.
Omega Red
Silver Samurai Single Carded (same as two pack release)
Uncanny X-Force Archangel
X-Force Wolfsbane in Wolfed out form. (Looks more demonic in the modern x-force wolfed out gear, and fits with the japan oni theme because of it.)
A Shiva Unit
Ultimate Nimrod

Mostly, stick to comics that are wolverine heavy in references, or use wolverine family. Finish up the Wolverine Origins figures with Cyber, Daken, Omega Red, A Shiva Unit, and Romulus, and then cover some X-Force, Uncanny X-Force, Ultimate, and Messiah Complex to wrap it up. Extra respect if they manage to work AoA Jean Grey in there.

Then toss in the movie line stuff like:
Movie Silver Samurai
Movie Yuriko in kimono or geisha outfit (depends which is more dominant in the movie)
The Wolverine Logan with logan in a training outfit, or samurai outfit, whatever is used in the movie for key scenes.
The jacketed wolverine from the first movie line re-released again with a sword and the jacket black(with yellow shoulder stripes) instead of brown and light brown stripes. It was a kickass first movie mold, and deserves to be used again.
A basic army builder bad guy. Whatever's dominant in the movie. (Ninjas, Yakuza, whatever) If need be, the Yakuza can be a new Suited buck, which can be used for a new logan in tux, daken in tux, or the ninjas can just be recolored hand ninja's from MU.

Then the rest can just be whatever filler or parts swapping can be made from who all is left.
Maybe even toss in a horseman Death Gambit figure for more mold re-usage, as well as a single carded Mr. Sinister.

This gives us more variety, and hits almost all the key characters people will want as well as keeps the movie universe fans covered too. It'd also greatly expand the molds available for MU. The New X-Men/Academy X femal Buck in particular can be reused later for Pixie among others. Just like some of the others can be reused again later like lady deathstrikes hands for a classic variant.

If they overdo the movie wolverines, the line won't move. They need to cover stuff that's eye catching for kids, and perfect for fans. Wolverine figures that are fun and varied without being gimmicky like scuba dive wolverine, or similiar.

Prem1x 10-26-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NerfTW (Post 188756)
They're not "faking out" the merchants. For starters, those are the names of the characters when they were on that team. They don't need to "fake out" anybody. It's not like Toys R Us is sitting at Hasbro headquarters saying "No, you can't make this figure, we only want Spider-man". And it's not like they buy the cases based on who's in them. They buy the cases because other cases have sold out.

Uh, trust me. Not many merchant buyers know who Daken is. Maybe Venom, but doubtful. Hasbro could have labeled them as such but chose A-list names instead. This definitely affects ordering. They do the same thing with Captain America instead of Steve Rogers/Super Soldier or Iron Man/Tony Stark. They choose the most marketable name.

All I was saying was, putting a order form that has a character named "Albert" in front of a buyer is not going to generate as much ordering as naming that character "Robot Wolverine".

MarvelTF918 10-26-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmorr (Post 188703)
how about his really modern costume. i.e his current one, with the x symbol by his left shoulder. or maybe so slightly obscure with his house of m garb. also we dont have an ultimate xmen costume yet so theres that.

I guessed that the Ultimate one would be next.

TheSymbiote 10-26-2011 03:32 PM

Old........Man...........Logan

Exodus 10-26-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowflakian (Post 188865)
There was a thread all about wolverine's next movie toyline with speculation already.

And like I said there, I'll say it again here:

They need to do more varied wolverines that are obscure to cover this time.
Stuff like:

Albert and Elsie Dee
Old Man Logan
Apocalypse Wolverine
Horseman Death Wolverine
AoA Wolverine
Ultimate Wolverine
Bone Claw Bandana Onslaught Wolverine

And then balance it with more nods from the comic side characters like:
Academy X X-23 (Preferably as a comic pack with Messiah Complex Deathstrike)
Messiah Complex Lady Deathstrike (Preferably as a comic pack with New X-Men/Academy X X-23)
Cyber
Modern Daken
Romulus
Astonishing Emma Frost to parallel the first movie's Astonishing Cyclops release.
Omega Red
Silver Samurai Single Carded (same as two pack release)
Uncanny X-Force Archangel
X-Force Wolfsbane in Wolfed out form. (Looks more demonic in the modern x-force wolfed out gear, and fits with the japan oni theme because of it.)
A Shiva Unit
Ultimate Nimrod

Mostly, stick to comics that are wolverine heavy in references, or use wolverine family. Finish up the Wolverine Origins figures with Cyber, Daken, Omega Red, A Shiva Unit, and Romulus, and then cover some X-Force, Uncanny X-Force, Ultimate, and Messiah Complex to wrap it up. Extra respect if they manage to work AoA Jean Grey in there.

Then toss in the movie line stuff like:
Movie Silver Samurai
Movie Yuriko in kimono or geisha outfit (depends which is more dominant in the movie)
The Wolverine Logan with logan in a training outfit, or samurai outfit, whatever is used in the movie for key scenes.
The jacketed wolverine from the first movie line re-released again with a sword and the jacket black(with yellow shoulder stripes) instead of brown and light brown stripes. It was a kickass first movie mold, and deserves to be used again.
A basic army builder bad guy. Whatever's dominant in the movie. (Ninjas, Yakuza, whatever) If need be, the Yakuza can be a new Suited buck, which can be used for a new logan in tux, daken in tux, or the ninjas can just be recolored hand ninja's from MU.

Then the rest can just be whatever filler or parts swapping can be made from who all is left.
Maybe even toss in a horseman Death Gambit figure for more mold re-usage, as well as a single carded Mr. Sinister.

This gives us more variety, and hits almost all the key characters people will want as well as keeps the movie universe fans covered too. It'd also greatly expand the molds available for MU. The New X-Men/Academy X femal Buck in particular can be reused later for Pixie among others. Just like some of the others can be reused again later like lady deathstrikes hands for a classic variant.

If they overdo the movie wolverines, the line won't move. They need to cover stuff that's eye catching for kids, and perfect for fans. Wolverine figures that are fun and varied without being gimmicky like scuba dive wolverine, or similiar.

They have Uncanny X-Force Archangel already...don't they?

fosterlager 10-26-2011 03:43 PM

I'd buy a scuba dive wolverine.

Blub blub, bub!

M3T4L V1KING 10-26-2011 04:54 PM

With all the Wolverine's we have gotten, they damn well better make this... Ultimate Wolverine

http://www.comic-images.com/data/med..._Wolverine.jpg

MrCoffeeAddict 10-26-2011 05:32 PM

I don't want to say it...but maybe Hellverine.

BAD MOON 10-26-2011 05:36 PM

Headmaster Logan

NerfTW 10-26-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LapuLapu (Post 188836)
Id like to see Old man Logan and Wolverine as Death , theres also Medieval Wolverine where he was kinda like Braveheart and Bone claw berserker wolverine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaver Strike (Post 188849)
Maybe a version where you can see that he has a healing factor. It could sort of look like some of the Terminator figures out there. Show some flesh and adamantium.

Yes and YES.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prem1x (Post 188870)
All I was saying was, putting a order form that has a character named "Albert" in front of a buyer is not going to generate as much ordering as naming that character "Robot Wolverine".


That's not how the figures are ordered, though. They don't go through and cherry pick which comic packs they're going to buy. They say "Hey, this line is selling well, we're going to keep buying more cases." At best you could argue that small shops might be swayed by names, but frankly, they don't amount to squat next to the major retailers. And the major retailers could care less whose name is on the package, as long as the line has been selling well. (Barring some outliers like "Hellboy", for instance)

At no point in the production process is "faking out the merchants" a consideration in naming.


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