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Greenskar 03-21-2012 10:06 PM

how Michael Bay killed TMNT
 
Well for one its no longer TMNT. Its now TANT. Yeah..."A" for "Alien"

*Claps hands together, and wipes them together to dust them off* Im out. *Turns to walk away, stops, turns and flips M. Bay off, turns and continues walk into the sunset.*

Michael Bay to TMNT Fans: Chill! - IGN

Sound off fellow Arkers!

Tiberius 03-21-2012 10:13 PM

I saw that a few days ago. It doesn't bother me as much as I thought depending on how story goes. I wouldn't mind as a total joke aliens abducting turtles for testing and then just toss them in the sewer with a phone and Pizza Huts #. As long as they aren't an alien species, I'm ok with it.

eva00kai 03-21-2012 10:15 PM

Id be somewhat accepting if the ooze was from space...but anything else id like bay to just stop T_T

Greenskar 03-21-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberius (Post 262404)
I saw that a few days ago. It doesn't bother me as much as I thought depending on how story goes. I wouldn't mind as a total joke aliens abducting turtles for testing and then just toss them in the sewer with a phone and Pizza Huts #. As long as they aren't an alien species, I'm ok with it.

ummm...you been drinkin? :confused2

this is the same guy who had anthropomorphic robots talking like stereotypical ghetto black dudes.

BigHanksCustoms 03-21-2012 10:23 PM

It'll be horrible for sure. But wait til you see the Baysplosions!

Tiberius 03-21-2012 10:25 PM

I live in Canada...all we do is drink. I have learned to accept that getting your childhood raped is inevitable. However, I was never TMNT fan so it doesn't bother me.


My best ideas come when I am drinking too. But as I said, as long as the TMNT aren't an alien species, I am ok.

Greenskar 03-21-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHanksCustoms (Post 262411)
It'll be horrible for sure. But wait til you see the Baysplosions!

ahhh...you speak truth!

NoodleChow 03-21-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberius (Post 262413)
as long as the TMNT aren't an alien species, I am ok.

yup, that's exactly how i feel. i'll take the mutagen coming from space or some kinda alien experiment, but if they're aliens themselves then they shouldn't even be turtles at all. cuz if they turn out to be alien creatures that happen to look like turtles then that would seem a bit too forced to me.

Greenskar 03-21-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

I live in Canada...all we do is drink. I have learned to accept that getting your childhood raped is inevitable. However, I was never TMNT fan so it doesn't bother me.
lol. But HOW many times must our childhoods be raped before justice is served? HOW MANY?! :mikey


This is exactly what he intends to do.

Quote:

According to Stuff We Like, Bay was speaking at the 2012 Nickelodeon Upfront in New York last week when he said that the Turtles are really ... aliens! Don't believe it? Watch the video below to see for yourself.
Michael Bay Talks Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – StuffWeLike.com

NoodleChow 03-21-2012 11:27 PM

ah damnit. i still don't see what's wrong with mutant turtles. wtf bay?

Starscream99 03-21-2012 11:37 PM

Only the Mayan theory can save us now!

iLegends73 03-22-2012 12:03 AM

so the turtles will be aliens, shredder with be a top FBI agent hunting them, splinter and april will own a father n daughter pizza shop and the foot clan will be lower class super solider FBI guys? i wonder just how far off i really am.......

quipp209 03-22-2012 12:05 AM

My thoughts when i see Hollywood r whoever do things like this I get a little disappointed I want to just yell at them and say what's wrong with the original premise why do they have to tweak something that is what I would consider a classic story or a great idea look tmnt has been around since I was a kid and it still living on so WHY!!!! Change it... but I know why guys like M.Bay think they know it all and believe he has a new idea but!! You dont!!! And yes I'm a big TMNT fan and I won't watch "TANT" LOL that just sound dumb

quipp209 03-22-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLegends73 (Post 262433)
so the turtles will be aliens, shredder with be a top FBI agent hunting them, splinter and april will own a father n daughter pizza shop and the foot clan will be lower class super solider FBI guys? i wonder just how far off i really am.......

Lmao your probably spot on

BigHanksCustoms 03-22-2012 12:16 AM

...and then to show he cares about the fans it'll be in black and white...

DogFashionDisco 03-22-2012 06:02 AM

It doesn't matter how bad this film will be, because people will still go to see it. It's a sad world we live in.

Joe Moore 03-22-2012 06:15 AM

Honestly, people are putting way too much stock into what Bay is saying. He's not the writer, director or even directly involved with the production (no more so than he was with Nightmare on Elm St, Texas Chainsaw or I Am Number Four). His production company are the ones producing the flicks. His name will be attached to it in credits and that's about it. The movie is more than a year away, hasn't been cast, final script hasn't been approved and filming is still a long time off. And frankly, WB would be more at fault than any of them, since they have final say on how their property is handled.

Greenskar 03-22-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 262508)
Honestly, people are putting way too much stock into what Bay is saying. He's not the writer, director or even directly involved with the production (no more so than he was with Nightmare on Elm St, Texas Chainsaw or I Am Number Four). His production company are the ones producing the flicks. His name will be attached to it in credits and that's about it. The movie is more than a year away, hasn't been cast, final script hasn't been approved and filming is still a long time off. And frankly, WB would be more at fault than any of them, since they have final say on how their property is handled.

its fun to hate Bay.

Joking asside, regardless of who is writing this or directing this Bay has the kind of influence that would sway the final direction of the movie. Who the hell is going to argue with the guy who's last TF movie alone was over $700M globally in spite of the changes that were made to the franchise to bring them to the big screen?

I'm not even saying the movie won't be good. I'm saying I don't like my Turtles non-mutant (and per subject title claiming he killed TMNT in the process). And when Bay says they're Aliens, now...why wouldn't I take his word for it?

To me this would be like if someone decided to make a Thundercats movie...but decided it would be better if they looked like dogs. Don't worry though...they're still called Thundercats.

Hopefully the aliens will at least still look like turtles. Hey maybe they are aliens with Skrulls powers but they only take the form of the first creature they come in contact with? I might be a bit more receptive if it was put in those type of terms. Hmmm now its got me thinking.

behindthemask 03-22-2012 07:04 AM

Personally Michael bay try making a movie where you develop and create original subjet matter, rather then rape and pillage nostalgia filled works such as transformers and now TMNT. I grew up on TMNT and the alien thing doesn't bother me 2 much as it could be the robot turtle giving life to the turtles, but if they're having 1 on 1 combat with aliens then I'll boycott it and any merch related. They should of used the same look as the 3 main movies but made it darker and grittier like tmnt 1 meets the Dark Knight.

Joe Moore 03-22-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 262518)
its fun to hate Bay.

Joking asside, regardless of who is writing this or directing this Bay has the kind of influence that would sway the final direction of the movie. Who the hell is going to argue with the guy who's last TF movie alone was over $700M globally in spite of the changes that were made to the franchise to bring them to the big screen?

I'm not even saying the movie won't be good. I'm saying I don't like my Turtles non-mutant (and per subject title claiming he killed TMNT in the process). And when Bay says they're Aliens, now...why wouldn't I take his word for it?

To me this would be like if someone decided to make a Thundercats movie...but decided it would be better if they looked like dogs. Don't worry though...they're still called Thundercats.

Hopefully the aliens will at least still look like turtles. Hey maybe they are aliens with Skrulls powers but they only take the form of the first creature they come in contact with? I might be a bit more receptive if it was put in those type of terms. Hmmm now its got me thinking.

I can't help but remember when the first TF movie was coming out, months before really anything was finalized, and I was talking to Tom Desanto (producer on the flick). He was telling me how faithful the movie was going to be to the source material and such (Tom is a G1 guy through and through). But, when Paramount really got their nails into it, and the creative team got put in place, his "vision" was basically thrown out the window, Orci and Kurtzman were brought in to rewrite the script and everything changed.

Until they say that the script is final, they're shooting now, anything said now could change numerous times. I'm not going to worry until that point.

quipp209 03-22-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 262518)
its fun to hate Bay.

Joking asside, regardless of who is writing this or directing this Bay has the kind of influence that would sway the final direction of the movie. Who the hell is going to argue with the guy who's last TF movie alone was over $700M globally in spite of the changes that were made to the franchise to bring them to the big screen?

I'm not even saying the movie won't be good. I'm saying I don't like my Turtles non-mutant (and per subject title claiming he killed TMNT in the process). And when Bay says they're Aliens, now...why wouldn't I take his word for it?

To me this would be like if someone decided to make a Thundercats movie...but decided it would be better if they looked like dogs. Don't worry though...they're still called Thundercats.

Hopefully the aliens will at least still look like turtles. Hey maybe they are aliens with Skrulls powers but they only take the form of the first creature they come in contact with? I might be a bit more receptive if it was put in those type of terms. Hmmm now its got me thinking.

Now you got me thinking LOL

Greenskar 03-22-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Moore (Post 262526)
I can't help but remember when the first TF movie was coming out, months before really anything was finalized, and I was talking to Tom Desanto (producer on the flick). He was telling me how faithful the movie was going to be to the source material and such (Tom is a G1 guy through and through). But, when Paramount really got their nails into it, and the creative team got put in place, his "vision" was basically thrown out the window, Orci and Kurtzman were brought in to rewrite the script and everything changed.

Until they say that the script is final, they're shooting now, anything said now could change numerous times. I'm not going to worry until that point.

I actually remember seeing you discuss this on TFW when I was only a Lurker at the time, lol.

Thing is, its not even the story i worry about so much as the classification of what they are and what they've always been. The story will never be worse than the already made 3rd TMNT movie where they went back in time to ancient Japan, IMO lol.

Bring back Ernie Reyes JR! Lmao

thechris 03-22-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskar (Post 262538)
I actually remember seeing you discuss this on TFW when I was only a Lurker at the time, lol.

Thing is, its not even the story i worry about so much as the classification of what they are and what they've always been. The story will never be worse than the already made 3rd TMNT movie where they went back in time to ancient Japan, IMO lol.

Bring back Ernie Reyes JR! Lmao

They were all good in their own way. LOL. To be honest, I appreciate III now a lot more than I did as a child. The part where Casey Jones brings the Japanese soldiers to the bar is hilarious.

tlasjr 03-22-2012 08:57 AM

You're all missing a key point:
Teenage-they can be 13-19 years old.
Mutant-nope
Ninja- no. martial arts maybe, bus not ninjitsu
Turtles-no he says directly they will be an alien race.

So what do we have left a T & A flick...with explosions.

Greenskar 03-22-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thechris (Post 262547)
The part where Casey Jones brings the Japanese soldiers to the bar is hilarious.


Hahaha, I just rewatched this on TV the other day and actually did like that part.


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