[Joe Moore]

MattyCollector Updates on Ghostbusters Ecto-1 and Subscriptions

[Jmacq1]

Cue fans complaining about scare tactics, etc... in 3, 2, 1....

[soundwavempl]

If Mattel really wants the subscriptions to go through, they need to reveal more of what will be included in the subscriptions. Toyguru always comes back with there will be no excitement if everything is revealed or they can't reveal everything if something has to be changed. However, my argument would be there is excitement at different levels of a reveal:

1) Figure's name is revealed
2) Figure's prototype/2-up is shown
3) Final packaged figure is shown
4) Figure is reviewed (esp Pixel Dan's reviews)
5) Figure is received by customer

If subscriptions are so close to not going through, why not reveal what will be released if it will help sell more subscriptions? Fun Publications does a great job of revealing the figures in their subscriptions for Joes and Transformers. Mattel could learn something from them in this case.

[Nexodusrex]

I wish they would name drop more. possible names, and show us just how many subscriptions it takes and how many we are away from. I am thinking of buying a second sub already to make some extra money, but I think more people would be interested in maybe getting a second sub too if they saw the numbers were close.

[Dragasses]

If they made these figures in 1:18th I'd be all over them. they look fantastic. wrong size.

[User897]

If only it weren't so damn expensive. I always get priced out of these things because of Matty's elitist subscriptions. If there were an Ecto-1 made available to me, with an installment plan to offset the large cost, I'd be all over it. They should at least look into something like Sideshow's FlexPay for us poor folks. We like toys too, you know.

[MintCondition]

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Originally Posted by soundwavempl

If Mattel really wants the subscriptions to go through, they need to reveal more of what will be included in the subscriptions. Toyguru always comes back with there will be no excitement if everything is revealed or they can't reveal everything if something has to be changed. However, my argument would be there is excitement at different levels of a reveal:

1) Figure's name is revealed
2) Figure's prototype/2-up is shown
3) Final packaged figure is shown
4) Figure is reviewed (esp Pixel Dan's reviews)
5) Figure is received by customer

If subscriptions are so close to not going through, why not reveal what will be released if it will help sell more subscriptions? Fun Publications does a great job of revealing the figures in their subscriptions for Joes and Transformers. Mattel could learn something from them in this case.

You don't even realize what a legal nightmare that would be, do you? Mattel isn't even fully sure what the other figures will be yet. WB could decide to make Mattel pull a figure, tooling costs could make one not viable in 2014, just to name a couple. Look at the fiasco they caused with Damian, and that was supposed to be a retail figure. They are not going to risk something like that happening with the subs. It makes perfect sense.

[soundwavempl]

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Originally Posted by MintCondition

You don't even realize what a legal nightmare that would be, do you? Mattel isn't even fully sure what the other figures will be yet. WB could decide to make Mattel pull a figure, tooling costs could make one not viable in 2014, just to name a couple. Look at the fiasco they caused with Damian, and that was supposed to be a retail figure. They are not going to risk something like that happening with the subs. It makes perfect sense.

Apparently I do not. However, I should have specified my ideas were mostly for MOTUC, since that is an in-house Mattel brand. I can totally understand the more complicated issues when it comes to licensed properties and revealing those figures. However, I understand more thanks to Toyguru's latest post on the MattyCollector forums:

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Originally Posted by Toyguru

MOTU fans,

I've seen a lot of emails and posts over the last few days about the meter and reaction to my post on Facebook yesterday that we are still tracking below expectations. Let me see if I can clear up some common questions.

1:The meter is 100% accurate. It is not a scare tactic. It was designed as a communication tool to let fans/customers know how close or far we are from the sub happening.

2:If the meter is not hit, what will likely happen is the 4 figures that are already tool'd (the ones revealed at SDCC) will be released quarterly and perhapes an item at SDCC. After that, that will be it. End of story. It is not a scare tactic, it is a truthful statement. MOTUC and in fact everything we do on Matty is a tiny tiny spec for Mattel. We continue to make these great toys because we love our fans, we love these brands and we want to keep them going. But the raw facts are in today's market we simply can't keep these high end low run collector lines going with out guaranteed customers. That is why we have the presale sub and the meter to communicate how far along we are.

3:We can't reveal additional figures simply because we don't have anyone far enough along to reveal. We can only reveal a figure after an internal milestone called "FPR" (Final product review). We revealed eveything at SDCC that had made it to this stage. Counting the "sneak peaks" at the panel and in the case on Sunday, we've revealed 5/12 monthly figures. So customers know about 1/2 of the entire year at this point! The reason we don't reveal more figures is because we don't want to show something that might not happen. For example, in the DC brand, a few retail figures were shown at NYTF in Feb. like Damien Wayne and a new Batman Beyond that were canceled. Have you seen the posts about this? The last thing we want to do is reveal a figure that might not happen. That is a lot worse, believe me. That is why we don't reveal figures that have not made it to FPR stage internally. We don't want to show something that might not happen or be changed. We need to wait until FPR stage to reveal.

4: A lot of the issues last year like QC and CS have really been tackled head on as promised. Combine that with our sub portal letting you easily change addresses or make adjustments as well as a new quarterly shipping option that will help save on overall shipping. Shipping is an area we just don't have as much control over, but we are doing everything we can and by offering a hold and ship quarterly option you will be able to save.

5: Again, I know fans want to see the entire year, but this is the 4th or 5th year of doing this.You guys know the drill and as noted above the reasons why we can't show further figs. They just aren't far enough along. And really, in today's market, the customers we need to keep all of the subs (and the Ecto 1) going are customers that are "all in" no matter what. It really shouldn't matter which figures we are doing, the type of customer needed to keep the line going, the customer that is the life blood of these lines is the type of MOTU (or DC) customer who wants anyone no matter what. In today's market we just can't build a line around cherry pickers. Subscribing isn't just about the bonuses of subing in like the Unnamed One, Early Access or less expensive figureds ($25 vs $27 day of). Sub'ing in is about supporting all of the figures and ensuring the line itself goes forward. The question is do we have enough of this type of customer? I think so! We did in 2011-2013!

6: We have indeed re worked the line up and as seen by our reveals at SDCC 23014 is packed full of A list charcters. No concept figures like the FFM or Vykron. 2014 and ideally 2015 will be all the figs we want to complete the line including vintage MOTU, vintage POP, A list NA figs and A list figs from other media like mini comics or animated series. The SDCC reveals should have confirmed this.

So to wrap up, I promise this is not a scare tactic or a roller coaster ride. The meters are 100% accurate and show the sub in level. Without hitting our goal, likely we will just release the first 4 figures and call it a day.We just can't keep these lines going without locked in support anymore.

Hope this helps. If anyone is not sub'ing in and you have a sepecific reason, please post here or over in Ask Matty MOTU/DC and I'll do all I can to address your questions.

Getting 2014 to happen will take all of us and a combined effort. No one wants to see MOTUC go away, but without the min number of sub holders, that is a very realistic possibilty. Not a scare tactic, not a marketing gimick, just us being as open and honest with our customers as possible!

Hope this helps! We can do this! I know we can! If everyone from 2011-2013 subs in we are golden. That is all it takes!

Scott

[Dr Kain]

1. All Mattel has to do is state, "Subject to Change" just like every OTHER company does.

2. I thought it took them two years to get a figure from concept to sculpt to final figure. How the hell do they not have any other figures beyond April tooled? That contradicts everything they have been telling us for years now.

3. I don't care about this bs. If the subs don't make it and the lines end, so be it. Mattel has had plenty of time to give us these characters (especially an oversized Dooomsday) but decided to jerk around with crap like Injustice versions, concept MOTU character, prototype characters, rainbow lanterns repaints, etc.

4. They have done nothing to Digital River. They have not held them accountable for anything and has not even formally apologized to their buyers for Digital River.

[Enigma2K2]

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Originally Posted by Jmacq1

Cue fans complaining about scare tactics, etc... in 3, 2, 1....

Dammit, posted before I could say "Cue fans trying to be clever by calling out fans complaining about scare tactics, etc... in 3, 2, 1...."

[Dr Kain]

I completely agree with what this guy said on facebook:

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Sorry but that meter is pure "Marketing". Ooooh the flame is at He-man's knee...what does that tell me exactly? Is that 20 subs sold? 200? 2000? You can't compare this to kickstarter, but if you want tips maybe call the 4 Horsemen and ask them how it works. You see the target goal in numbers, in DOLLARS, and the progress gets updated in numbers, in DOLLARS.

The goal hitting He-man/s ankle, knees, crotch, hand, head, sword, whatever tells me no kinds of useful information at all. Is the tip of the sword 5000 subs? 10,000? 5?

Bottom line: I have bought my two subs. That is all I can do. I can't force other people to spend their money. I'm sure not going to pimp myself out to MOTUC, or be a pledge drive, or market a line for a billion dollar toy company of which I am a PAYING CUSTOMER.

So if you want my money Mattel, you step it up. You get it out there, spread the word, blog, socialize, beg, plead and deliver to get that business.